To want Brexit be reversed

[BeKookySheep]

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

Absolutely. Just explain the reality that our former Prime Minister chose to gamble away the future of the country in a failed attempt at settling some in-fighting within his own party, and that an ill-informed electorate then voted to tank the economy because they didn't like foreigners and chose to believe some lies on the side of a bus. But don't worry, darling. At least we have blue passports now.

With ones life. If you can't go to an European country easily to do whatever you wanted to do , like you used to be able to, then you do what millions of others have done and make sacrifices and work hard, jump their hoops and achieve what you want. If you don't want do the hardwork and make sacrifices or can't, then that's fine too..but then don't come on mn and have a fecking rant about how your life could have been if things were different (talking about the OP). Either you jump the hoops and achieve what you want or you don't and quit moaning and find an alternative like everyone else has to.

Shame they didn't write that on the side of a bus, eh.

Did you not read my earlier post - the ambassador's letter (we had officially left the EU so we were outside the decision making process during the transition year) plus the vaccine alliance of four countries who were persuaded to give up their alliance and join the EU scheme. If it were not for Brexit, the political pressure of joining the EU's vaccine scheme would have been much greater.

But the PM didn't unilaterally exit EU though. He asked the people and the people spoke. There's no point in the entitled 48% moaning , 52% have chosen to leave and that's democracy. That's how the real world works and coming onto mn and moaning about status quo and "not know what to tell darling daughter" is just cringe.

Nick Timothy MP
@ NJ_Timothy
Here we go again. In 2017 under the Dublin regulation: - 314 migrants were transferred out of the UK - 461 migrants were transferred to the UK The year before the numbers were 362 and 558. Dublin didn't work. Labour aren't serious.

So 52% are ill-informed. I am guessing that the 48% are the well informed ones then?

Quite.

I don't think, 'we're going to make it a bit crapper for no discernable benefit, but don't worry you can just suck it up and work a bit harder', is that compelling.

That's why they went with the NHS lie.

Member states were in no way obliged to take part in the EU’s joint vaccine procurement scheme.

Under European law, the UK was permitted to act independently to approve the vaccine in an emergency.

However the political pressure would have been greater inside the EU as stated above.

I think the strength of the leave campaign is underestimated. It was a close result. There’s a programme on the campaigning. The messaging was incredibly effective.

I also think people felt frustrated and showed it in votes, politicians are good at getting results they don’t want if they make enough people feel unheard.

Maybe, maybe not

It is still a lie that it was a Brexit benefit

😆 🤣 you have the nerve to question intelligence 🙄

How about parenting and teaching your child the reality of living in the real world, instead of having an entitled rant on mn.

Would MNs even exist if it wasn't for said rants?

The UK also lost access to the European Asylum Dactyloscopy Database (EURODAC) – the EU-wide asylum fingerprint database – that is used by participating states to cross-check fingerprints taken from asylum seekers.

As well as elements of the Common European Asylum System (CEAS)

To be fair I was replying to this;
I don't believe that's true anymore. Look at the polling, the majority think Brexit was the wrong decision.

TBF, the pp could add that the LibDems were the first party to offer a referendum as a manifesto commitment. And that Labour did sweet Fanny Adams to support a remain vote.

You seem to have a comprehension problem. Where did I say that the PM unilaterally decided to leave the EU? Clue: I didn't.

But yes, you're right, our kids will allhave to learn the reality that democracy generally produces the results that the electorate deserves. And if we fail to educate our population properly, the electorate will carry on making stupid choices to the detriment of all.

What a profound contribution you make. Do you remember how that kind of bigoted remark went down when it was applied to Muslims and terrorism?

I did think that brexit was stupid. Surely people should see what would happen, if one small country left the EU.

Its made it much harder for British people to study or travel or work in the EU.

People voted for it to stop immigration and it utterly failed to do that. I didn’t agree with it and voted to remain, but for those who voted out I’m surprised more aren’t mightily pissed off that it hasn’t achieved this.

On the day of the referendum I was waiting for the bus when I overheard a young woman talking on her phone. She was telling whoever she was speaking to that although she had never voted in her life before she was going to vote leave to "stop all the Turks coming over here". Propaganda certainly works

https://www.epc.eu/content/PDF/2022/EU-UK_post_Brexit_DP.pdf

I agree, and now that Donald Trump is unleashing his brain dead policies on tariffs and threatening to invade Greenland, we need the security of being in a trading block with our nearest neighbours, rather than grovelling for a trade deal with the US which will open us up to allowing in chlorinated chicken and other abominations.

Another effect of brexit: it definitely feels lonlier in the uk these days.

I feel cut off from the rest of the EU.

Its lonely out here