To want Brexit be reversed

[BeKookySheep]

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

Rise in racist attacks since the referendum, the racists are empowered.

But those that voted for it don't accept any responsibility for this.

Clearly a Brexit related decision as the UK's ambassador to the EU explained in his letter to the European Commission;

I welcome the constructive approach to discussions between our respective teams over the last weeks to understand what UK participation in this scheme would look like, in line with both the terms of the agreement reached by participating Member States to shape this initiative, and the relevant provisions in the Withdrawal Agreement.

The Commission has responded positively to our requests for clarifications but has confirmed that it is not possible for the UK to pursue parallel negotiations with potential vaccine suppliers, meaning the UK would be required to stop its negotiations with manufacturers with which the EU launched negotiations. The Commission has also confirmed that it is not possible for the UK to have a role in the governance shaping decisions on which manufacturers to negotiate with, or the price, volume and delivery schedule negotiated.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53361906

Also, your link says;
If one or more of them had decided to follow the UK’s path and procure its own vaccines, no one would have stopped them.

In fact, Germany, France, the Netherlands and Italy did form an "Inclusive Vaccine Alliance” in 2020. They negotiated some early/provisional agreements with vaccine manufacturers - but then other member states made a fuss and the Vaccine Alliance members were persuaded to disband, drop their negotiations and join the EU scheme, losing their head start in the process.

https://www.politico.eu/article/vaccine-alliance-casts-shadow-over-commissions-new-strategy/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/04/german-minister-criticises-von-der-leyen-over-covid-vaccines-disgrace

That's not fair at all.

I'm speaking as someone who didnt vote for brexit, just to be clear.

But people were given the choice and made that choice - as was their democratic right. Just because they voted for brexit doesn't make them responsible for racist attacks. That wasn't on the ballot paper.

This is a very good point

YANBU - it’s been a disaster.

Nothing to do with terrorist attacks or grooming gangs then?

"Not everyone who voted for Brexit is racist, but every racist voted for Brexit."

Ironic, given that one of the charities in question has lost funding for what had been a very successful programme for getting long term unemployed people into work.

At least we know that institutionally racist elite universities such as Oxford and Cambridge supported Brexit.

Really? How did that work?

Brexit didn't make any difference to the covid vaccine.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/55163730.amp

The next few years will more than demonstrate Farage's complete lack of ability. He can't even run a party nevermind a country.🙄

Reform voters have chosen to learn the hard way. Just as most Leave voters have.

The latest polls show that between 45% and 49% of respondents want to rejoin the EU if you include people who answered neither/don't know. It would be madness to announce another referendum with so much uncertainty as to the result. Why would you want to go back to 'Brexit uncertainty'? How would this benefit the economy?

Shouldn't have been a referendum.

@Bunny44 do you think there should’ve been a referendum in 1975 to join in the first place?

YANBU. Sadly whilst some still believe Nigel Farage is the new messiah we remain royally screwed.

Where has anyone said they want uncontrolled immigration? The choices are not Reform or uncontrolled immigration. They are between one approach to it or another. I may have missed it but I haven't seen anyone say exactly what Reform intend to do to tackle immigration. Just lots of them saying it is bad, but no actual plan.

Politically it made a big difference - see my earlier post.

This thread would be hilarious apart from the fact Brexit isn't funny.

It's full of people claiming intelligence while unintentionally proving otherwise.

OK. I will rephrase my original statement to say that they were well aware of the risks that were being predicted by the experts and chose not to worry about those risks because they decided that other factors were more important to them. Is that better?

For me, it amounts to the same thing. They heard the warnings and chose to ignore them because they liked the narrative of sunlit uplands better.

You mean that people believe the lie?

This is rather missing the point.

It would be madness to hold a referendum and risk people voting to rejoin when the chances we would not be allowed back in are so very high.

What I meant was the referendum has been done, people have spoken via their votes and it is what it is. Not sure why people have to keep going on and on about what they wish. This is what living in a democracy is like. We all can't have everything we want the way we it. Uk is not going to keep having referendums each time a poll indicates something. Polls aren't always correct either. People just need to stop whinging and get on with it.

Get on with what?

And this whole "I didn't know what to say to my dd" is just fecking cringe. How about parenting and teaching your child the reality of living in the real world, instead of having an entitled rant on mn.

It was all part of Farage’s long term plan. Blame European immigrants for everything, get Brexit where he made millions crashing the pound and we lost the Dublin agreement. Cue thousands of people coming on small boats since that he can then scapegoat as a means to reach the ultimate goal of Reform.

There will always be some group that is a ‘‘problem’’. People have been blaming immigrants since time began. Someone to punch down on. Next it will be the disabled that are too much of a drain on society’s resources. We harmed ourselves for this. We need to rejoin but that will be hard and won’t be on the same terms, and I think some people are too ignorant or not wanting to admit they’ve been a fool so they double down on it.