To want Brexit be reversed

[BeKookySheep]

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

I saw this comment somewhere i cant take credit for it but...

"I'm sick of coke and Pepsi so I'm going to drink piss instead."

So you want to show this country as weak and appeasing and go cap in hand? Well wouldn't that be a great green light to see what other policies we would topple over.

Lol. I have always been suspicious of supposedly clever people who join Mensa. It smacks of someone that is desperately trying to prove something.

"I'm sick of coke and Pepsi so I'm going to drink piss instead."

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More irony 😆 🤣 instead, let's teach our future generation to disrespect a legitimate referendum. That will stand them in great stead for their employment.

Soverignty was a mythical argument. Even the onservative government admitted it.

Why is Brexit founded on the politics of blame. Currently blaming politicians for not doing it 'properly'. It always ends up like this when people scrutinise it..

What you are basically saying is, we don’t need asylum seekers. They arrive regardless even of whether there are any job vacancies. Climate change, a growing number of countries to the extreme right, and global instability will continue to swell the numbers of genuine asylum seekers. Maybe it’s time for some honesty from those who do not want immigration - they don’t want to help genuine asylum seekers, because there are too many of them. Nor do they want to take any responsibility for the causes of mass migration. Obviously, they still want all the advantages of contact with the outside world, but want none of the disadvantages - they want to be globalist when it comes to access to useful resources, and isolationist when it comes to the downsides. They want to be like Trump - fantasising about gaining control off all the resources they need and spitting out the inconvenient humanity getting in the way of the prize.

At this point it would almost be worth having Nigel Farage in power just to prove that Nigel Farage is a snake oil salesman and a charlatan and fucking incapable of delivering anything of any fucking benefit to Joe Public, but I fear that even then the people who voted for him would insist that there was some other very plausible reason why he had fucking failed to deliver on any of his promises which definitely had nothing to do with the fact that he's a fucking fraud.

@Winter2020 why do you think the governments haven't got a handle on immigration?

@lifeonmars100 then don't have people feeling ignored and hopeless??
If systems are robust and fair the majority will be OK

As someone who voted to leave, I agree op!

We had a referendum. Then people disrespected it and we had another one, that's how we got Brexit.

You're argument undermines democracy and honestly it's ridiculous.

Because, again, they regarded it as scaremongering, as described by the groups they were aligning with. Are you saying people who hold beliefs don’t doubt experts in their field? Because that’s … incredibly common.

I thought the goalposts would shift and I was right. Now it's not about a lack of education, it's one's reasons for asserting their knowledge. 😂

Big girl’s blouse?

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😂 need to get back to my yoga. I can't take anymore level of irony. OP, teach your children that you can't always get what you want.

Cap in hand...

Sigh...are you always this dramatic?
You mean adult, grown up conversations, We negotiate with other countries all the time.

Thats not the correct use of 'irony', btw.

I'm saying that people choose to listen to what they want to hear and to disregard what they want to ignore, and that they are ultimately accountable for those choices.

They chose to believe the Brexiteers who were telling them that it was scaremongering and they chose to ignore the advice of most experts. I don't doubt that this is indeed incredibly common, but it doesn't let them off the hook for the choices that they made.

Unless, of course, you are implying that they were too stupid to be able to evaluate the sources of evidence appropriately?

Eh? What does Mensa have to do with education?

Overall, I find it curious that anyone would seriously consider joining the EU. Subjecting yourself to the legal framework of a technocratic organisation in a foreign country, run by people you can’t vote out, putting them in charge of your financial, technology, telecoms sectors, environmental policy and many others besides, would be an odd decision to say the least. Unless, that is, that EU membership has such astounding benefits that it makes it all worthwhile. But we were members for 47 years and we know it doesn’t.

How about comparing the cost of rejoining with the cost of not rejoining?

Shouldn't have been a referendum. Referendums should be reserved for less complex issues and where the outcome isn't so wide reaching
and potentially damaging to the economy and security of the country.

The UK had a huge influence on decisions the EU made, and played a big role shaping in shaping it

I’m not saying that. The original statement was that they took the predictions on board and decided that they were worth it. I’m saying I don’t think that’s what happened.

Perhaps in the long run the people will be better off having jobs than charity?