To want Brexit be reversed

[BeKookySheep]

I don’t normally post about politics, but this has been playing on my mind for a while. I wasn’t super political before the referendum — just a mum trying to do her best for her family. But now, years later, I really feel like Brexit hasn’t delivered what we were promised. And I think we should seriously start talking about reversing it.

My eldest is 16, really bright, and had dreams of studying languages and maybe doing a year abroad. We looked into Erasmus a while ago, but that’s gone now. And the cost and hassle of studying or working in Europe is so much higher now. She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say. It hit me hard.

Everything’s more expensive — our food shop has gone up loads, and don’t even get me started on getting certain things for school packed lunches! Little things, but they add up. My brother runs a small business and he's drowning in paperwork just to send stuff to Ireland. And a friend of mine left the NHS because she felt so overstretched — they can’t recruit enough staff anymore, especially from Europe.

Brexit hasn’t made anything better. It’s just made life harder in so many small but important ways. And if something clearly isn’t working — and is limiting our children’s futures — why shouldn’t we talk about changing it?

We tell our kids it’s okay to admit when something’s not right and make it better. Maybe it’s time we took our own advice.

Would love to hear if others are feeling the same. Has Brexit made life harder for your family too?

Sorry @Azdcgbgjml

At least you're trying to apply some balance to this so my post should have been addressed to the arrogant ones and there are plenty of them.

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https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/comment/covid-vaccine-decisions-brexit

Covid vaccine bring a Brexit benefit is widely regarded to be a myth.

Wasn't that a Boris Johnsonism?

Yep. There was a mad arrogance at play whereby people beleaved they knew better than experts in the fields of the Economy, Science, Health, Logistics etc.🤯

Ah well, we're all paying the price now.🤨

Or reasonable to respect democracy and not be a big girl's blouse.

Small minded people created a smaller world for our children's future... Still angry now

Yes it was a democratic vote but awful campaigns on both sides especially with lies told by the leave campaign. But as you say it's done now.

We don't need moving towards a million people (net) a year arriving when we have no spare housing.

Immigration for jobs is a pyramid scheme. These people and their dependents need housing, schools and teachers, hospitals doctors, nurses, bins emptying and they will also grow old. Will we ship in ever more people to care for them when they in turn grow old?

How is having uncontrolled immigration in people’s own interest.

There are more people not voting for Reform than those who are. Their support is not that fierce. They are still a minority party.

What @DoYouReally said

And it's gone from bad to worse, given what Trump is up to

Brexit has added a great deal to the issues that make people want to vote reform.The irony is lost on them. It totally destroyed our family business, complicated travel for us (all 4 have different combination of passports), and plunged my (EU national) husband into a depression from which he’s yet to emerge. I still resent the shit out of the people who voted for it. I’m an American citizen too so it feels like being crushed from 2 directions. I can see in myself I’m less trusting of people in general, and my default warm feelings for my fellow humans has cooled significantly. It doesn’t feel good, but I can’t help it.

You can always pay for your ds to study abroad by yourself - lots of people I know do that. Erasmus is not the only option in the world. In fact, universities in Europe are so cheap that you have to have a very good excuse not to send your son there if he wants to do it.

Could your child not go to a country outside the EU, there are many to choose from?

She asked me, “Why is it so much harder for us than it was for you, Mum?” And honestly, I didn’t know what to say.

How about "that's how life is, and if you want something really badly you stop moaning and whinging and feeling entitled and get on with it" How about something along the lines of "make those sacrifices to get what you want. Dont expect everything to be handed to you on a platter. " There are millions of determined people across the world who travel to far away countries and migrate legally and work hard legally to achieve what they want, they don't sit at home whinging "oh mama boohoo boohoo, how life was better for the previous generations".ffs

Yes, wish it was different by all means, but we live in a democracy and the majority don't want it the way you and your darling daughter do, so best deal with it like everyone else has to.

Democracy is a process nit a one time thing.
If it wasnt we'd never have elections. There's no democratic reason to not revisit a decision. To argue that is saying you don't believe in democracy.

And...if you are so sure Brexit was the right thing you wouldn't worry about it bring Subject to a further vote, would you.

No - because the politicians betrayed us - having a mandate and the legal framework to reduce immigration and chose not to do so.

International students are propping up our unis by paying double the fees of home students, and then being vilified as well by all parties.

I don't believe that's true anymore. Look at the polling, the majority think Brexit was the wrong decision.

It should never have been put to a referendum in the first place, but what's done is done.

There's no real political route to reversing it - it's just not going to happen. The best the uk can do now is forge as good relationships with Europe as it can. Obviously that's outside the EU, but within that context.

We should immediately surrender our sovereignty because little Timmy wants to freeload at a foreign university to study languages - because, you know, Oxford and Cambridge and Bristol and Glasgow and other universities are incapable of linguistic instruction. P.S. If little Timmy wanted to study languages, he would have been bilingual by the age of 16 just by sitting in his local council-funded library with a Lingua course with tapes/discs, occasionally dipping into the multiple available audio courses to correct/adjust his phonetics.

In the end OP, there would have to be another referendum and the rejoin side would have to win. It would take a significant change of views by the majority for that to happen.

We moved slightly left with our last general election, much of Europe moved right so I'm not sure I would want to rejoin. And the EU has structural problems of its own. Freedom of movement is not welcome in many countries. Disagreements have surfaced.

However, we can definitely forge better links for young people - university/work exchanges etc, and better trade and defence links. That's where I'd start.

Our “sovereignty” has done nothing to improve life in the UK.

I wish it would be reversed too.
My mum lives in EU and I can't even send a postcard or a small parcel of chocolates.
Last time I did it, the parcel was stuck in customs for 7 weeks and she still had to pay £30 extra customs fee on a £8 worth if chocolate!!! A total shit show!!!

Nigel Farage hasn't been in power and the governments that have been have betrayed the people by being able to a very large extent to control immigration and choosing not to do so.