Crime statistics by country of origin

[Zebedee999]

The government is proposing to publish crime statistics by country of origin.

A few weeks ago I mentioned some statistics from other European countries (and in fact the UK) showing that sex crimes against women by men of certain countries are 40 times those of the indigenous British. I got called racist (the stats are by country not race) and of course the stats were removed as racist.

Personally I think women's safety should be the overriding priority and such statistics should be used as part of a process to determine who can move to the UK. Why allow in men who statistically will carry out 40 times the sex crimes of the indigenous population? Let in women by all means.

I am genuinely interested why my view is racist when to me it is simply prioritising women's safety. AIBU to want immigration processes to prioritise women's safety?

We ignore white British perverts. That's the problem. And then we make up this idea that white British men are less perverted than immigrants without knowing any statistics and we run with that.

The problem is that violence against women is underinvestigated and not prioritised. It happens to women from all backgrounds, by men from all backgrounds.

If you're a white woman, white men are always more of a threat to your safety than immigrant men because you're more likely to be closer to white men. It will be your father or husband who hurts you, very rarely a stranger and it will be a stranger from your community. Probably a poor drug addled white boy.

Ethnicity, then.

Academically it makes no difference.

Since when do we ignore white British perverts?

Have the police ever ‘trodden carefully’ with the prosecution of a group of sex offenders based on their whiteness?

Maybe you would’ve had an argument 100 years ago but you don’t today.

Plus that’s bloody ridiculous. It’s like saying my spaniel is more of a risk than an XL bully because I live with it and you’re more likely to be bitten by a dog you live with. We’re not measuring risk on an individual basis - on a population level we’re looking at which factors make a man higher risk in terms of offending.

Being proud of your heritage doesn’t make you a proponent of ‘ethnic purity’ like the Nazi party.

We've just agreed that heritage isn't ethnicity. You seemed to be arguing that you were ethnically pure or did I misunderstand?

You are more likely to be bitten by a dog you own but it isn't quite the same. Let me graphic and explain why.

Literally no white women raped by a white man has said "oh that was so much better than it would have been if he were an immigrant". Whereas you may choose to be bitten by a spaniel than an XL because they'll cause less damage. Rape by an immigrant isn't less damaging than rape by a white man So your analogy is bullshit but worrying and offensive at the same time.

Have you seen the stats for conviction of sex offenders? It's very very low.

Have you heard of the church of England?

No, you’ve confused me with another poster. Even so I don’t recall that poster using the word ‘pure’ which insinuates something different all together. As far as I can remember only you have used that word.

Yes and they covered that up within themselves. The police didn’t give them a helping hand. I’m happy to acknowledge being a priest or vicar is probably very high risk in terms of sex offending risk on a national basis.

And that includes non white defendants. Unless you’re saying there’s a conspiracy to protect them as well?

I'm saying there is a conspiracy to protect men from being held accountable for sex crimes. Men generally. That should be our focus. Not certain groups of men.

I am indigenous British and proud of my ancestors and will not be made to feel ashamed and will not be corrected on this. It is my heritage.

It was you. You seem very passionate about your ethnic purity. You are 'indigenous' with British ancestors.

Of course the police did. They didn't investigate any allegations and left it to the church. Silly thing. You think all this went on and not one victim EVER went to the police?!

Of course and I imagine it was colluded in being covered up. You’re silly if you refuse to acknowledge objective statistics, which you’re plainly doing with your whataboutery.

I didn’t post that comment. You’re embarrassing yourself.

I do acknowledge objective statistics. We don't have any that says immigrant men get away with sex crimes more than white men..

But glad we've established that the church of England were helped by the police in covering up sex crimes. Several men, mainly white men, covered for themselves and each other while they abused children. It was normalised.

We didn’t say they did. We’re looking at likelihood of offending. Keep up

Doesn’t change what we’re talking about here whatsoever.

I'm not that easily embarrassed. You're correct you didn't say it.

Why does this make some people so uncomfortable and defensive?

The stats can't be by "race" because there's no such thing. We're not in Alabama in 1965.