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Sharing friends.

143 replies

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 04/05/2025 01:40

OK, it's a DMIL one.

Made new friends with a couple and invited them over whilst MIL was visiting.

At some point when DH & I were out of the room, she gave them her phone number.

She didn't mention it until they'd left, which seemed odd and a bit sneaky.
Would be one thing if they got on like a house on fire, but ahe was basically mute and had to be prompted to join in the conversation.

We are in a new place, DMIL lives 6 hours away and new friends live on the next road from us.

DH & I can cope with MIL in short bursts as she can be overbearing.

Just when she was here, she was talking of friends who've ghosted her. There's always someone who's wronged her and she has no self awareness.

The AIBU:
Since she got back home, she sent us a parcel with a sealed and stamped card to be passed on to new friends as she doesn't have their address.

She said the letter is a thank you for visiting.
Except, they were our guests and we've already said thanks for coming.

Wwyd? This sounds petty, but I don't want to share friends with MIL and neither does DH as she'll take over and probably end up spoiling the friendship, even from many miles away.

Yet we're the ones living close to these people and see them about.

If she were to be friends with them, we'd step back as no good would come from it.

Would you pass the letter on or say not to worry, have already passed thanks for us all and bin?

Haven't opened it and don't intend to, but don't want to bin without mentioning it to her.

Has anyone shared friends with a MIL/ DM?

YABU - Pass it on.
YANBU - Don't facilitate it.

Thanks.

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NippyNinjaCrab · 06/05/2025 09:38

Fab uodate, you need to open the card now lol xx

LittleBitofBread · 06/05/2025 10:16

Good update, OP. I also liked your line 'will keep it for you to pass on when you next see them.'

whitewineandsun · 06/05/2025 11:04

Ah, well done for that. You're better than me.

Let her fume.

kindnessforthewin · 06/05/2025 11:19

You won’t regret setting boundaries. Keep it up or the requests will keep coming.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 06/05/2025 14:19

Thanks all, it's such a relief.
I posted on here just before 2am as I couldn't sleep thinking about it. Then was up at 6am.
Slept like a baby last night, just goes to show how seemingly little things can affect you if not addressed.

Will ask DH after work if he want us to open it. Part of me wants to just bin it, but another says to open is and see what she was up to.

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NippyNinjaCrab · 06/05/2025 14:50

She's a right piece of work! If you do open it you will have to get a new envelope though. She definitely sounds like my mother, I'm nc for a few years now. She used to send cards to everyone and sign off with, good folk are rare. She would buy these little cards with verses on them to send to anyone she latched on to. She could never keep friends, her true narcissistic self showed it's ugly self eventually and she was vile about everyone, even lovely people who were very kind to her.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 06/05/2025 19:00

"Good folk are rare", the cheek of it! More like CFs are not so rare.

Sorry you had to go through that.
MIL loves to collect friends then chuck them if of no use.

We'll just say we binned the letter, hopefully will make her think twice next time.

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FeetLikeFlippers · 06/05/2025 21:59

kindnessforthewin · 05/05/2025 12:53

Goodness she sounds like my younger sister. Is there a disorder for people who have zero self awareness? So far BPD is the closest someone suggested to me on a thread of my own.

its enough to drive you mad as their requests and expectations are so detached from reality.

be lucky she lives 6 hours away, my sister moved 10 min walk from where I live after I moved in. With a baby and 2 year old, plus dog, DH and me are maxed and have had to say no to her constant inviting herself round, asking to borrow things, even askong if her friends could borrow something the other day. No matter how many times I say I don’t have capacity for anyone or anything, nothing clicks. And yes she has had many ex partners and friends, nothing is her fault. Even after one breakup she moved herself in my home for 5 weeks and drove me mad, if I bring that up, it was my fault she behaved that way.

it’s so stressful. I feel for you. They can’t make their own way in life. They want to piggy back onto yours. When the answer is yes to requests, they keep coming. When the answer is no, they have a problem.

My advice is say no. No when she invites herself over, ‘sorry we have plans’ and no when she does weird stuff like this.

what will she react like when you say no? I don’t see her as being emotional? My DS breaks down in tears telling me she’s lonely and we don’t have a family so I’m ‘disgusting’ for not making more time for her and she should be my priority…

Possibly a covert narcissist. Unlike your classic narcissist who wants everyone to think they are important / powerful, coverts are often obsessed with people thinking they are saints and/or victims. Hence the passive-aggressive behaviour where they say nasty things in a subtle way that allows them, if challenged, to respond with “I never said that”, “ That’s not what I meant” and of course the classic “How could you accuse me of something so mean?” thus making it all about themselves and their feelings. They just love to play the victim and can’t acknowledge they are ever in the wrong. I mean, why bother going to the effort of actually BEING a nice person when you can devote all your time and energy into gaslighting people into thinking you are nice?! It’s utterly bizarre but once you identify somebody’s personality disorder and look at a list of the symptoms, all their weird behaviour suddenly falls into place!

WhereIsMyJumper · 06/05/2025 22:04

FeetLikeFlippers · 06/05/2025 21:59

Possibly a covert narcissist. Unlike your classic narcissist who wants everyone to think they are important / powerful, coverts are often obsessed with people thinking they are saints and/or victims. Hence the passive-aggressive behaviour where they say nasty things in a subtle way that allows them, if challenged, to respond with “I never said that”, “ That’s not what I meant” and of course the classic “How could you accuse me of something so mean?” thus making it all about themselves and their feelings. They just love to play the victim and can’t acknowledge they are ever in the wrong. I mean, why bother going to the effort of actually BEING a nice person when you can devote all your time and energy into gaslighting people into thinking you are nice?! It’s utterly bizarre but once you identify somebody’s personality disorder and look at a list of the symptoms, all their weird behaviour suddenly falls into place!

Edited

Absolutely this.
Always be wary of anyone who never, ever admits they’re in the wrong or apologises.
We are all in the wrong from time to time. Most normal adults can put their hands up and apologise and acknowledge they have flaws.

FeetLikeFlippers · 07/05/2025 18:37

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 05/05/2025 18:51

Sorry you were raised by one.

So intrigued by the letter after all the people saying open it 😂.

Go on, you know you want to!

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 07/05/2025 21:02

Hi all, had to check with DH first and he'd had a bad day yesterday, so left it.

Asked today and he suggested burning it! 😅.
I tore it up and chucked in the bin, only for me to fish it out and read it.

DMIL said it was lovely meeting them,
thanked them for visiting DH, myself and her.
Said how lucky they were to live where they do and how she'd love to see them when she visits 🤯.

Said, in the meantime, she's happy to chat on the phone.
She included her address and phone number.

Told DH what the letter said and he's just glad it's behind us.

Just unbelievable!

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FeetLikeFlippers · 07/05/2025 21:23

Does the D in DMIL stand for delusional or demented? 🤣

TammyJones · 08/05/2025 06:49

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 07/05/2025 21:02

Hi all, had to check with DH first and he'd had a bad day yesterday, so left it.

Asked today and he suggested burning it! 😅.
I tore it up and chucked in the bin, only for me to fish it out and read it.

DMIL said it was lovely meeting them,
thanked them for visiting DH, myself and her.
Said how lucky they were to live where they do and how she'd love to see them when she visits 🤯.

Said, in the meantime, she's happy to chat on the phone.
She included her address and phone number.

Told DH what the letter said and he's just glad it's behind us.

Just unbelievable!

To be honest I was expecting much worse.
At least you can put it to bed now.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 13:10

FeetLikeFlippers · 07/05/2025 21:23

Does the D in DMIL stand for delusional or demented? 🤣

Both 😂.

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 13:11

TammyJones · 08/05/2025 06:49

To be honest I was expecting much worse.
At least you can put it to bed now.

True, could have been worse.
Sadly, that would be her testing the waters before unleashing her tentacles.

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LittleMonks11 · 08/05/2025 13:38

Never mention when you are seeing these potential new friends again. I was glad to read the denouement! She sounds a nightmare mother and mother in law. Be strong OP! Have you got children? Dread to think what she’d be like as a grannie 😱

beawant · 08/05/2025 14:06

Springhassprungxx · 04/05/2025 20:53

She's trying to Wendy you op! I have got a friend who does this.

I have a school mum 'friend' who does this. I can so see her doing this with her hapless son when he settles down.

@Treesandsheepeverywhere your MIL is controlling and lacks appropriate boundaries. Not sure you have sent the message already but I would say to her, MIL you seem to have misunderstood, these are our friends, we manage communications with them, your have form for being controlling and encroaching in inappropriate ways so we will not pass this on as we don't wish to scare away the neighbours with a MIL who acts like a stalker in the making, haha.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 17:36

LittleMonks11 · 08/05/2025 13:38

Never mention when you are seeing these potential new friends again. I was glad to read the denouement! She sounds a nightmare mother and mother in law. Be strong OP! Have you got children? Dread to think what she’d be like as a grannie 😱

Thank you, never mentioning plans, only in past tense when they've happened.
A shame as she has no awareness at all.
Either that, or she is aware, but just doesn't care, which is even worse.

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 17:39

beawant · 08/05/2025 14:06

I have a school mum 'friend' who does this. I can so see her doing this with her hapless son when he settles down.

@Treesandsheepeverywhere your MIL is controlling and lacks appropriate boundaries. Not sure you have sent the message already but I would say to her, MIL you seem to have misunderstood, these are our friends, we manage communications with them, your have form for being controlling and encroaching in inappropriate ways so we will not pass this on as we don't wish to scare away the neighbours with a MIL who acts like a stalker in the making, haha.

Oh no, your poor friend's son.

They seem to be everywhere!

Interestingly, I was with a couple of friends earlier, and one of the things we all had in common is narcissistic DM/DMILs.
Have replied and she tried to get back but shut that down too.
Hoping it's the end of it.

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2024onwardsandup · 08/05/2025 17:47

She will be LIVID 😂😂

does she know where they live? Guarantee you next time she visits she’ll be wanting you to drive past theirs so she can sit pop in with some insane gift tangentially relevant to something they spent two seconds talking about in passing g

ForRealCat · 08/05/2025 19:09

Open the gift. Take the gift

tell MIL new friends laughed at gift and said she was loopy but sweet.

double win. MIL thinks they are rude and doesn’t want to be friends anymore and you get a present

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 21:58

2024onwardsandup · 08/05/2025 17:47

She will be LIVID 😂😂

does she know where they live? Guarantee you next time she visits she’ll be wanting you to drive past theirs so she can sit pop in with some insane gift tangentially relevant to something they spent two seconds talking about in passing g

Probablu still spitting feathers, oops! She vaguely knows where, but wouldn't be able to go there by herself, but sadly she'll probably never stop asking after them now.

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 08/05/2025 21:59

ForRealCat · 08/05/2025 19:09

Open the gift. Take the gift

tell MIL new friends laughed at gift and said she was loopy but sweet.

double win. MIL thinks they are rude and doesn’t want to be friends anymore and you get a present

Good idea, but just a loopy letter. She'll be planning other ways of inserting herself 😅.

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MimiGC · 09/05/2025 10:29

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 07/05/2025 21:02

Hi all, had to check with DH first and he'd had a bad day yesterday, so left it.

Asked today and he suggested burning it! 😅.
I tore it up and chucked in the bin, only for me to fish it out and read it.

DMIL said it was lovely meeting them,
thanked them for visiting DH, myself and her.
Said how lucky they were to live where they do and how she'd love to see them when she visits 🤯.

Said, in the meantime, she's happy to chat on the phone.
She included her address and phone number.

Told DH what the letter said and he's just glad it's behind us.

Just unbelievable!

I know you haven’t passed it on and I wouldn’t have either, but I actually think the content is ok, a pretty reasonable attempt to reach out to someone she liked and hopes to see again.

financialmuddle · 09/05/2025 10:41

Can you not see from the rest of the thread how it is part of a wider pattern of behaviour, @MimiGC? Many small parts of which look OK and pretty reasonable on their own.

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