Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

I doubt that the King wants not to talk to his wayward idiot son, but talking to him has become a risk Charles can't afford to take.

Quite. Harry has told the world he doesn't know how long his father has got left. If he did know, could you trust him not to blab?

Its probably not just up to Charles - he is probably advised to be very careful about any interactions he has with H for constitutional, legal and security reasons.

People are saying Harry gets protection if he gives 28 days - some sort of liaison officer - this sounds like the kind of word salad pedalled by governments.

the idea that the son of the kind doesn’t get police protection is madness. It’s utter gaslighting to act as though he’s safe and has freedom here and that it all depends on the current threat. He’s had Taliban threats since he was in Afghanistan and he’s very very high profile even if not cutting ribbons here.

everyone is acting and gaslighting that he’s not that famous or worth protecting. Come on - the sons of Diana and Charles are incomparable to other celebrities & royals - they’re known at all corners of the globe.

seems to me the British royals and the media got and juiced what they could out of the little boy who walked behind a coffin and was essentially a child celebrity from birth.

monkey won’t dance so they’ve exiled him. This is essentially a way of ensuring he isn’t in the UK for long unless he’s cutting ribbons.

Feel so angry about this - such a loss of faith in humanity and people’s judgment. Also the naivity of people - it’s clear this decision is rigged and designed to control. The masses are so naive about ‘democracy’ - this reeks of in-house manoeuvres and a royal dictatorship casting out one of their own to protect their power and reputation.

And this whole rhetoric about gossip and blabbing. Sure Charlie and Will didn’t blab - they just had their people do that for them. Give me a break.

I’m sure they are capable of talking about horses and polo and palaces and the latest 5000 pound wine they trie & making small talk about grandkids.

As the head of the Catholic Church and a family who forgave Andrew, it’s terrible.

As the head of the Catholic Church...

What has the Pope got to do with it?

I think the row has gone too far for them to go back

So @Lavenderfarmcottage how would you organise security staff to be permanently available for Harry to avail himself of them whenever he turns up?
They need notice (emergencies notwithstanding) to assess threat status and organise staff required. Am like @HonoriaBulstrode am bemused what the Pope has to do with it - is he giving up his security for Harry?😂

oh come on they’re not the local party planning business - I’m sure they can set up a system with Harry. I’m sure the royal family have last minute arrangements and needs and that this is exponentially expensive - adding Harry to the mix isn’t going to make a huge difference.

Charles has what ? Like 10,0000 rooms under guard . Could he not section off part of it and make it exclusively available to his own grandkids ? The tight old bastard. If Harry wants to go for dinner or to France or have freedom he can - they have a mini army of security - what’s a few more.

Give me a break !!! The absolute nonsense on here. It’s the king of England. Did we all forget the momentous stuff up of Diana dying while pursued by press ? She left the family and was offered police protection fyi.

what a load of nonsense.

@Lavenderfarmcottage I do hope you feel better getting that off your chest.

What is it exactly about PH current security arrangement you find so unpalatable? Do you think he should have access to UK. intelligence? that he should have armed police on standby 24/7 should he decide on a whim he fancies a pub crawl around the Cotswolds? Are you happy to pay for that?

No idea about the pope 😂

The number of wilfully obtuse people on this thread is astonishing. We’re all wasting our time trying to explain. It’s clear they’ll blindly believe whatever word salad comes out of Harry’s mouth, regardless of the facts.

And if you don’t want the expense or the headache then don’t train a monkey to dance & make a celebrity out of a child.

this is the royal family YOU want from birth in your country and encourage and support and a media that has build an industry off them.

Harry’s identity was sold the moment he was born - cashing in his privacy now or attempting to be privare - it makes no difference - he’ll never be private. You threw him to the circus the minute he was born.

the inhumanity of British society and coldness after what he went through with his Mother and now the controversy over his wife & exiling them via security.

I wouldn’t take any notice of that posters uninformed opinion, you should see the thread they started on ‘English’ people, though it may have been pulled by now.

Charles has always accepted Harry as his 'darling boy' and it's no-one else's business

It is absolutely the business of Parliament and British ‘subjects’ that people in the LOS are entitled to be there.

I love how tough everyone is “oh well they’ll assess the risk and he should just trust that and carry on with threats against his kids”,

If any of you had to go one day knowing there were neo Nazi/taliban threats over your kids you’d be bunkered inside and wetting yourselves and have the exact same demands.

Let's think about that: it's what Harry claims.
Harry lies. On Oprah he said his father had "cut him off", Duchy of Cornwall accounts prove that C was sending him money well after this date.
Secondly, if it's true about not speaking, can you blame Charles? Goodness knows how Harry would twist and misrepresent the conversation.

Probably meant with communication not money.

That's what I included. It's what Harry claims, so we don't know what's true, but I wouldn't blame C for not communicating, because it'll somehow get twisted for the Sussex narrative.

Well @Lavenderfarmcottage seeing as you feel so incredibly strongly about a multi millionaire Prince who lives in a different country who doesn’t work for our government or the Royal Family I suggest you start a petition that you want the British tax payer to fund the Prince and his family’s 24/7 365 metropolitan armed security around the globe, and you could write to your MP, as you with your expert knowledge on National Security you could lay out your case why three top British Court judges are wrong in their ruling, I’m sure Harry would be ever so grateful, Good luck!

@BigWillyLittleTodger 👏

I would but it sounds like those decision making bodies are unwittingly corrupt or powerless and the court case was a waste of time.

Nobody can have an opinion on national security because people in national security are oppressive even when it doesn’t regard terrorism.

Finally, it’s your system that makes princes millionaires, he’s offered to pay for the security and if the cost of security is a big undertaking then don’t have children born into royalty and made celebrities. Thank god Archie & Lillibet didnt go down the same route - it was your society and media offering them up without an “insurance” plan.

You don’t just expect the royals to work, you expect them to dance and live in the public eye and create entertainment for you.

let’s not pretend this is a job at Aldi - this utter nonsense you’re pedalling. It’s not like Harry was employed by Aldi last week and then left and is still expecting to be paid. This is an entirely different thing - he was a sacrificial lamb for that institution and forevermore his safety is compromised.

Whereas evidence presented to the court by the Home Office about Harry's protection is - apparently - "word salad" 😂😂

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Are Private individuals allowed to hire the police in your country? Talk about corruption if they are!

Oh and the last "King of England" was William III, he was succeeded by Anne, then there was a union with Scotland in 1707.
Thereafter, they are Kings and Queens of Great Britain.

Sounds like a recipe for chaos and anarchy!