Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

Perhaps they should lock them up in the tower to keep them safe?

Why don't you educate yourself as to the actual facts of the case, rather than make a fool of yourself spouting stuff like that?

I think Harry had several motives re the case.
One was making clear to the UK public , if he lost, that the Windsors are happy to pay to keep Andrew safe but they snatched any security from Harry as soon as made clear that he was leaving .
You can see the twisted thinking reflected in the unfiltered thoughts of some royalists ( “at least Andrew keeps his mouth shut”)
Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)
I think they don’t want him in the uk because he shows the rest of them up and they hope he’ll be forgotten about in exile . He won’t - he’ll be a thorn in their side . Good .

They. Receive. Security. When. They. Visit. The. UK.

Harry and Meghan are the only ones ‘putting them at kidnap risk’. If they were in the UK they would get appropriate police protection.

Harry doesn’t have security now ( applying in advance each time and having each application considered is no security)

He lives as a private citizen 8 time zones away.

Are you suggesting in demand specialist protection officers should be on standby in case he decides to pop over on a whim?

Andrew doesn't get security paid for by anyone but himself but he does live on the Windsor estate within the security cordon. This is probably why Harry and Meghan were given Frogmore Cottage, it's much cheaper to have royal homes in one place.

Andrew is protected
Harry and his family are not

This time last year, they were happy to leave their children in California while they went on a jolly on another continent.

That too, and true. And now, even if William dropped dead Harry still wouldn't get what he wants and become heir to the throne, because William's children take precedence over him.

GoodOldTrayBake, how exactly are the royal family supposed to protect Harry's children from kidnapping when those children are in America? Indeed, if Meghan allowed her children to be brought to the UK how would you expect the royal family to protect them from being kidnapped? The Home Office might do so by providing them with armed security while they were in the country; the royal family do not have the power to provide them or anyone else with armed security. RTFT for goodness' sake!

This is why!

this and the armed thing. But really it’s so no one can buy the police protection

I was meant to fly out on 9/11 to Boston.

just wasn’t meant to be

Andrew pays for his own security
Harry and his family pay for their own security in California using some of the tens of millions they made by selling his family’s privacy and increasing the risk to others including the young children George, Charlotte and Louis

That too, and true. And now, even if William dropped dead Harry still wouldn't get what he wants and become heir to the throne, because William's children take precedence over him.

I think the UK would become a republic before Harry ascended to the throne.

So according to the Guardian, instead of the automatic full security reserved for senior working Royals, Harry and his family would experience as explained below:

The Sussexes would receive a “bespoke” security service, whereby they would be required to give 30 days’ notice of any plans to travel to the UK, with each visit being assessed for threat levels and whether protection is needed

Why is there such a strong sense of victimhood here? Can’t see what the issue is.

It's no secret that you can hire private security firms. Many of my customers in central London have private security, you get what you pay for, I would feel safer with these chaps over the Met any day.
They have impeccable manners, look like fashion models but dangerous. Harry could hire chaps like this if he can afford it or ask his dad. Security and concierge business is big money in London. However Harry thinks you and me should pay for it sod that.

Really? Exactly what is different?

He does have his own private security at present and will continue to do so. He can even bring them to the U.K. as other famous people do. They just can’t carry firearms.

Also the Met continue to monitor security threats against him and will provide security upon his return to the U.K. if he provides 28 days notice and they deem it necessary. So he maintains a more privileged security position than the many other famous people who live here or visit. For exemple I imagine JK Rowling faces significant threats and provides her one private security without any expectation of state support.

Although he briefly posited the idea of paying for Met security himself, it isn’t a service that is for sale and he wouldn’t be affordable for it. What the case ended up being about was whether Ravec made the correct decision regarding the withdrawal of his fully taxpayer funded global protection.

I forget the figures, but his cover would involve a full complement of four teams who cover the week in shifts, including weekends and holidays. So at least 8 people full-time. Furthermore, they would need accommodation for themselves (and for long term stays / permanent relocation their families). This would be far more expensive than anything provided to any royal at present. The officers would also need special diplomatic visas to work overseas, which would be tricky for protecting a private citizen living permanently in another country. Lastly, while Harry thinks his father has the power to override Ravec, he doesn’t and wouldn’t. It would upset our constitution.

Did he say why he doesn’t want TJ give them the time in advance?

It's no secret that you can hire private security firms.

Of course you can. But they can't (legally) carry guns in the UK and they won't have access to intelligence. Only the police can do those things, and as has been said repeatedly, they are not for sale or hire.

Because he wants to be treated as special without pitting in the work in to actually be special

Harry’s case was based on him wanting to pay for it

They do have suitable protection.

What work is Andrew doing to justify his taxpayer funded security ?

Charles paid out millions for years to keep Andrew safe after Andrew’s close association with Epstein was uncovered . Millions
Then Andrew was said to have made some lucrative deals in the Middle East ( all from royal lodge we assume ) and suddenly had money to fund some security . Andrew also enjoys the tax payer funded security we all pay for at Windsor .

He is not at greater risk than russian oligarchs in London. They have excellent security and all going about their business. Mostly avoiding plutonium poisoning.
Edited to say that was in reply to the previous post by pinkart.