Why can’t Harry just pay for his own private security?

[jennylamb1]

Don’t get it. He says that he can’t ever visit the UK again because his security won’t be provided. Loads of celebrities and high profile business people pay for their own security, why should tax payers pay for his security when he isn’t a working royal anymore?

So you want KC to pay the police budget out of his personal funds? You can’t rent a cop ffs!

Andrew doesn’t get tax payer funded security beyond that due to being on a royal estate.

I was being facetious.

I don’t think wealthy people can just buy government security services.

Maybe Harry could go on a Police Degree Apprenticeship and then work towards becoming a firearms officer, and then on to do close protection?

He seems stuck as to something to do and this could be a win:win!

Well, if you PERSONALLY would be furious, that settles it! 😅

You can't do close protection for your own wife and children 🙄

Andrew isn't protected Google it

You think that is the problem with that plan? 😂

It was a joke, obviously. He wouldn’t get past vetting.

I forget the figures, but his cover would involve a full complement of four teams who cover the week in shifts, including weekends and holidays. So at least 8 people full-time. Furthermore, they would need accommodation for themselves (and for long term stays / permanent relocation their families). This would be far more expensive than anything provided to any royal at present. The officers would also need special diplomatic visas to work overseas, which would be tricky for protecting a private citizen living permanently in another country. Lastly, while Harry thinks his father has the power to override Ravec, he doesn’t and wouldn’t. It would upset our constitution.

Jeez how much would that lot cost the British tax payer!

Incorrect

Currently, the legal position on the extent to which police can charge clubs for match costs is based on an October 2017 Court of Appeal ruling that went in favour of Ipswich Town and against Suffolk police. The ruling in that case was that the police could recover only the costs of policing the stadium itself—not even the immediate surroundings, let alone the wider area

Mark Roberts, the football policing lead for the National Police Chiefs’ Council, has put the cost of policing professional football matches in England and Wales at over £48 million a year, of which police are able to claim back only around £5.5 million from clubs

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-06-04/debates/7FBCA7DA-C3B1-4CC1-8C3C-FFC9F31115E2/CostOfPolicingFootball

I would see it as something positive if football clubs paid more towards the cost of policing their very lucrative events.

I would see it as something positive if Harry paid towards the cost of police security in the event of a visit.

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Have just read a bit about this. So if he gives 28 days notice he will ge given security depending on a threat assessment. So if no threat apparent he presumably won’t get armed security. I can kind of see Harry’s point because there may be no intelligence on a potential attack on him. So if it happens, all he has is his own unarmed security. He doesn’t feel safe without armed security which he and his family won’t be guaranteed unless a threat has been identified…

I suppose people / celebs like the backhams don’t get armed security when in Uk I wonder if visiting royals would . Or the pope .

It doesn't matter how he 'feels'. Security is not allocated on the basis of 'feelings' but on specialist threat assessments.

If no threat is identified why should he get full police protection? He seems to manage fine without it in California.

Just like all the other royals apart from Charles, Camilla the Wales family and considering he is a non working royal unlike Princess Ann and The Edinburgh’s he should count himself lucky.

I feel its sad that charles doesnt speak to harry at all anymore.

Theyre allowed to be in love, but Meghan was definitely a bad influence in some ways.

Harry william and charles had a fairly close relationship before meghan came along. After meghan, now neither william or charles speak to harry. So meghan ruined those relationships

The Pope is a Head of State so yes.

I would guess that foreign royals, other than the monarch, would only get protection if on an official visit.

Its sad how its become so combative between them all.

I suppose he has armed security in usa

also what if the treat hasn’t been identified but is stil a threat

Yes, but they're just private citizens with no special privileges and no access to intelligence. They have to abide by the same laws on the use of arms as anyone else in the state. It's very different from specialist close protection officers.

What are you suggesting?

That specialist, in demand close protection officers be on standby in case a private citizen living 8 time zones away decides to pop over?

No threat assessments are 100% guaranteed to be correct of course, but RAVEC have a pretty good record. As I said, Harry manages fine without access to such assessments in his daily life, not to mention his jaunts to Colombia, Ukraine and Nigeria. Why is only London, a very safe city for VIP's, considered so terribly dangerous?

My (completely unqualified) assumption would be that an assessment of the threat level would not necessarily only give security if there was a specific, recognised potential attack against him, but would consider the general risk level that he’s at as well.