To ask if you are not a Christian, what non Christian values you live by?

[BlossomBlanket]

Just that really!

It's do whatever you want now, no restrictions or limitations, you should be free to follow your bliss

I absolutely do have agency.

I use that agency to stand up for myself and others, much like @Insanityisnotastrategy has very kindly done for me here.

It's a value I hold you see. Might not be Christian, but it's definitely a good one, don't let bullies get away with verbal or physical attacks, regardless of whether they believe they're right because the have God on their side.

Actual facts and evidence are real.

The fact you don't have reliable sources doesn't stop the things I see to be true being true.

It's possible to fact check. And verify sources.

You stating that facts are not real just screeches "fake news" and completely undermines anything else you say.

@Insanityisnotastrategy I'm curious with your experience in caring for people, if they were upset and said something you didn't agree with would you have told them they weren't nice?

In a clinical situation my Duty of Care is to the patient I am assigned to and I would conduct myself appropriately as aligned with the Code of Conduct of my Professional Body.

"There are of course many things which through lived experience going back thousands of years have shown themselves to be effective ways of handling certain issues, but like everything in the accepted scientific method, everything is a theory, to be accepted only until such time as something happens to prove that theory is incorrect."
Would you be happy to use the term 'traditions' to describe these things which were effective ways of handling certain issues? - have you ever heard of Chestertons fence?

"In practice this means, for example, that homosexual relationships or sex outside marriage between consenting and available adult partners is not harmful or wrong, because it has not been demonstrated that it is."

Isn't it more than technology has made it safer to have extramarital sex? Rather than some kind of "moral progress" and we've just discovered that it's no biggie? Because for a long time it was deemed wrong. And you wouldn't want your daughter having a multitude of varying casual partners. I imagine you still wouldn't.

So stop responding to me.

@BlossomBlanket

And you wouldn't want your daughter having a multitude of varying casual partners. I imagine you still wouldn't.

If my daughter was happy and safe, why would it matter if she had multiple casual partners?

No. This is a discussion board, you sounding like Trump isn't a reason for me to go away.

How many is too many? 100... 1000?

You tell me.

If she's a consenting adult, she can do what she likes. Why would you think differently?

I'm not telling you to leave, do whatever you want.

I just don't know why you're devoting so much time to someone you think is such an idiot.

2000

If she slept with 2000 men, you wouldn't be worried about that. You'd be celebrating her joyous expression of sexual freedom?

How would I know what she was doing in her bedroom and with who?

Do you tell your mother every time you have sex and who or was with?

Do you expect your daughter to?

I asked you a question. Why would you think it was a problem who she slept with, providing she's safe and happy?

It seems ridiculous to put an arbitrary number on how many people we would be comfortable for our daughters to sleep with. Surely, as the pp has already said, the question should be around whether they are happy and safe?

Out of interest, are you also concerned about how many people our sons might be sleeping with, or is it only female sexuality that needs to be monitored and controlled.

Your posts look like moral reasoning but they…aren’t. You feel like some kind of chat bot teenage boy who likes to pose as a challenging thinker. But your reasoning is puerile and uninteresting, your “gotchas” are just like dorm room debate magnets.

It might be a very public only fans

Yet you rise to it and take the time tell me this

I see how you're raising your children then.

Personally, I wouldn't regard that as being very safe.

I also don't think that a happy and thriving young woman would choose to be exploited on that kind of website.

But honestly, your line of questioning is quite perverse. Most people don't obsess about their daughters' sexuality in this way.

Because I’m bitchy like that. I don’t mind making fun of you.

Is it one of your non-Christian values?

Wow. That's some in depth advanced searching there. Not at all stalkery.
I have strong views on organised religion, which I express. You call that moaning. I call it exercising my freedom of speech.

You know nothing about what I do IRL (thank goodness, I'd be seeing your beady eyes behind every twitching curtain!)

You terrify me. I've never felt so stalked before.

I've just looked up Chesterton's fence. This is called impact assessment. It's a good idea but it shouldn't be a barrier to change.

In terms of casual sex - my (adult) childrens' sex lives are not my business and I would not presume to judge. You're also assuming that without religious prohibitions, most people would indulge in endless empty casual sexual encounters - that is not my experience at all, you seem to have a very jaded view of humanity.

It's not for me or anyone else to judge, only for the person in question. Some people have wild sex lives and have regrets. Some have wild sex lives and don't regret a thing. Some people abstain and have regret. Some abstain and do not. We could do with a lot less judging and a lot more accepting. It isn't about letting people have their bliss and live lives of random indulgence, it's actually about allowing people to take responsibility for their own lives and dealing with the consequences of their choices. We don't need religion to do that.

@estersouwester your fixation on anal sex is hilarious.

1. Heterosexual people have anal sex.
2. Lesbians.