AAAAGH Reform. Are people ignoring the racist?

[Peasnbeans]

And that he's no economist skills yet promising the impossible. And a racist. And mysoginist.

If Mumsnet is full of women, how is no-one talking about Reform and limiting women's rights?
I know I'll get flamed for this, but it is a boiling frog situation! Jump out!
And I didn't choose the AIBU board but I looked down all the Current Threads and this didn't feature.

I concur 👏

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It is if it is a security issue

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/08/07/two-women-accused-using-muslim-dress-shoplifting-spree/

What do you read and trust, The Guardian?

For those that aren't happy, here's the security footage in glorious technicolour

That's the lengths the virtue signallers will go to. It's really quite telling, reading some of these views, why the white groomed girls were kicked down the bottom of the pile. Imagine going through that ordeal and then on top of that, you're shown contempt by white middle class women, who are more interested in protecting cultural misogyny than they are anyone else. Its all a mess really, their thinking, which is riddled with double standards and inconsistencies. All in the name of not being seen to be racist.

The Guardian is the quintessential lefty's Bible.

exactly

I always thought the USA was better than this but it’s only been 100 days and look at us.
There are people here who if they heard “the sky is falling! - the sky is falling!” would yell “Sell sky!!”
We have something like 1350 days left.
JFC we’re all gonna die.

The vast majority of those could have been declined by the government if they chose to do so.

The people voted Brexit to be able to control immigration and both the Conservatives and now Labour chose not to control it. They have betrayed the public with that decision.

Hopefully they will show their ineptitude quickly and we'll be spared from them doing well at the next general election.

Labour have been given the shock to get the country going again by e.g. rescinding the increase in employer's NI, fixing legal immigration, deporting foreign criminals, sorting primary care, finding and charging the bosses of OCGs, cracking down on tax evasion and avoidance, identifying empty properties and allowing local councils to use CPOs.

No, just as with anything else, there are gradations.

A committed Christian:

Wears a cross in public (absolutely fine)

Tries to make me wear a cross in public (annoying)

Harrasses women outside an abortion clinic (nasty)

Campaigns to enact laws to restrict women's reproductive rights or their rights to leave abusive partners (hey there Trumpsters and Project 25) (truly vile)

Bombs an abortion clinic (extremely vile)

Similarly for Muslims.

Of course Muslim theocracies are pretty much the worst at the moment; but e.g. Afghan refugees are generally fleeing the Taliban, not importing it.

And incidentally I know, and have worked, with plenty of Muslims, and have never experienced anyone telling me what I can and cannot eat, though they themselves may decline to attend certain events during Ramadan, Not saying that it could NEVER happen, but, in a rather long life, the only people who have tried to pressurize me about what I can eat have been health freaks, and, when I was much younger, the 'clean your plate, don't be a fussy eater' brigade.

Oh, and by the way, if you don't like having people who disagree with you insult you by calling you 'stupid' or 'racist'- by the same token, don't call us 'virtue signallers'!!! THAT is truly insulting!!! \People can genuinely hold views that are different from yours!!! Call me stupid if you must, but don't call me a virtue signaller!

Why are you assuming all the people posting here, hostile to Reform, are white?

And the term “coconut” is not a left wing invention. I recall a certain David Starkey, far from left wing, referring to “the whites have turned black” after the 2011 riots.

I just take it as a sign of stupidity and being hard of thinking. They cannot fathom people having a different opinion to themself.

😆 😆 😆 🤣 the irony

Yet you can't fathom POC being fans of Reform.

Is this a racist group?

Just checking.

https://kidcreoleandthecoconuts.com/

Couldn't have said it better !

I’m a white middle class woman and agree with you . You don’t have to live these experiences to be able to clearly see right from wrong but the volume of people putting their warped ideologies before common sense is primarily the reason the country is a mess .

A surprisingly large number of people from this country think it is OK to set fire to hotels full of people, or to post on social media encouraging other people to do so. That does not mean that all people from this country think that is OK.

So the policy of an entire country should be based on what allegedly happened to a friend of someone who posted on Mumsnet?

My entire working life I have had Muslim colleagues and nobody has ever requested I don't eat. It might have happened, but it is by no means the norm.

Can you please explain what is racist about the Reform party? I assume you are talking about Farage, but if not the same question applies.

And yet here they are actively taking steps to stop the boats...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4jwk7zl0qo#:~:text=Under%20the%20proposed%20agreement%2C%20illegal%20migrants%20who,and%20reducing%20the%20number%20of%20dangerous%20crossings.

Because obviously if we allow head and face coverings that means we have to have Sharia courts...

Do these head coverings offend you too?