AAAAGH Reform. Are people ignoring the racist?

[Peasnbeans]

And that he's no economist skills yet promising the impossible. And a racist. And mysoginist.

If Mumsnet is full of women, how is no-one talking about Reform and limiting women's rights?
I know I'll get flamed for this, but it is a boiling frog situation! Jump out!
And I didn't choose the AIBU board but I looked down all the Current Threads and this didn't feature.

Nail bars, "Turkish" Barbers, "Indian" Takeaways, Deliveroo, Cannabis Farms, Car washes - lots of opportunities for the enterprising migrant !

Around two thousand a week will strain any system. It’ll cost a huge amount too.

I am taking a wild guess here that you are a Reform supporter.

But we are not allowed to call you racist.

Check my original post again, I said that illegal immigrants can't access welfare services (including free healthcare) in this country. Asylum seekers are NOT illegal immigrants!!

Hi,

This is also untrue. We aren't short of nurses because the work is too hard and only immigrants are happy to do it 🙄 we are short of nurses because despite a massive staffing shortage, we aren't recruiting. Plenty of student nurses qualifying this year & no jobs to go into. Not because we don't need them but because the NHS is skint & they don't want to pay for more posts.

I'm an immigrant to Britain. I'm a bit mixed but have a lot of white British descent - I grew up in a former British colony (not India). I know first hand what kind of complications it brings to a nation to have a complex history of colonisation and migration and power struggles between different ethnicities! The complexities last for generations and centuries. My whole self is conflicted, I'm descended from multiple different ethnic groups who were actively at war with each other. I don't have a "homeland" as such.

It's literally insane to me that Britain would choose to throw open their borders to everyone in a giant melting pot experiment when they have so, so much integrating to do with the existing population of immigrants from the last 50 or so years (and I include myself in this). I find it hard enough integrating sometimes and I'm not even from a distant culture!

If you're concerned about colonialism in history and the impacts it had I don't know how you don't see how this experiment is one that will have consequences for generations.

Aaaaarrrggghhh ! 😮

Apologies, I misread and thought you said those seeking asylum can't use the NHS. That was my error.

I appreciate that there are mutliple factors involved. But it is true that fewer UK students are entering nursing programmes, partly because bursaries have been scrapped, and also because it is such a hard job for such little pay.

Yes, the NHS is skint. I don't believe immigration is to blame.

It's literally insane to me that Britain would choose to throw open their borders to everyone in a giant melting pot experiment

Britain has not chosen to throw open its borders to everyone. It is a nonsense proposition.

Ok, Tories and the liberal left and some people still can't fathom why main parties are being rejected in favour of Reform.

My above post is in relation to parties limiting women's right in favour of deluded men who believe they are women.

They are if they are not genuine asylum seekers. The men coming across the channel in small boats safely escorted by the RNLI are coming from a safe country - France.

Yep we have I’ve been on buses where am on the only Brit you’d think it was somewhere in the Middle East/african continent …and not a word of English being spoken. Feel like an alien in my homeland.

It has changed so much in the 10/20 years…it’s very, very noticeable more so in the last 5 years …

Surely it depends on whose territorial waters the boat is found to be in and proximity to which country's shores?

Yet, we're apparently giving rights to work for people coming to work in Kebab shops that are probably fronts for Money Laundering. That's pretty close to "throwing open borders".

I never said millions upon millions, but I'm sure most peeps will agree it's not a positve thing in a lot of ways either.

Let's be honest here, the immigrants coming over on boats are not going to be working in the NHS are they?

Starmer labelled our recent immigration policy as an "open borders experiment"

Work it out, I would have thought that was straight forward and easy enough to understand.😀

Pure racist post.

1. You have no way of knowing who's British or not on your bus or how long they have lived in this country.

2. So what? People on the bus looked different to you. And..?

3. We are a sovereign independent country who writes our own immigration policy. We have not "thrown open our borders." There has been an increase in legal net migration from outside the EU in recent years due to our historic commitments to Hong Kong Chinese and the need to populate our industries after a loss of EU citizens after Brexit. This is what Brexit voters voted for.

Did he, how odd of him. Why is he increasing it?

Yes, Starmer is using inflammatory language as he attempts, mistakenly, to appease the racists from Reform.

Ludicrous. 728000 people on an already crowded island is not a drop in the ocean, it's an enormous amount of people. And this is year after year these days, it was much higher the year before. By contrast, new arrivals were in the tens of thousands in the 80's and early to mid 90's.

It’s the same bullshit messaging that led to Brexit - the brown people are the issue! Immigration is why quality of life is poor and people have no money. Absolutely fuck all to do with 15y of austerity wiping out public services pushing more people into poverty leading to greater demand.