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To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

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NewGirlInTown · 03/05/2025 00:30

Harry is a buffoon and a drug addled liar.
The King is wise to keep him at arms length from the rest of the family.
Harry will be living off his dead mother for ever.

NewGirlInTown · 03/05/2025 00:31

Velmy · 03/05/2025 00:00

Charles, like most royals, has repeatedly put the institution ahead of his own family. Not sure why anyone would think that'll change just because he's about to croak.

I wonder if William will extend the olive branch when Charlie is gone? 🤔

Not a hope in hell.
William knows enough to never let Harry near his own family again.

RawBloomers · 03/05/2025 00:36

I find it a bit amusing that there's a thread on AIBU critical of a parent drawing a line in the sand with annoying offspring.

Maybe Camilla's been on here lamenting her DSC and the impact on her DH and she's passed on the advice to go no contact?

TheHerboriste · 03/05/2025 00:38

NewGirlInTown · 03/05/2025 00:31

Not a hope in hell.
William knows enough to never let Harry near his own family again.

Agree. He doesn’t want his children mocked in the grifters’ next book.

MsAmerica · 03/05/2025 00:40

For me, as an American, stuck with a head of state who is an outright criminal, sulking seems pretty minor to me.
When Trump supporters were looking for any possible reason to trash then-President Biden, they pounced on the fact that he had cold-shouldered an out-of-wedlock grandchild. It was surprisingly out of character for a man known for his compassion. But should a leader be obliged to fake emotion just to satisfy a nosy public? I don't think so. If he does his job, maybe people should let the private life alone.

Turmerictolly · 03/05/2025 00:41

He seems like a cold and unfeeling father. He was sent off to Gordonstoun which had an effect on his own development. I feel sorry for Harry. He lost his mum at a formative age and has an emotionally distant relationship with his father which pre-dates all the Megan stuff. I hope he can find happiness in his little family and stay away from the toxic and stilted family who put the institution first (maybe as they must). Low or no contact as Mumsnet would advise.

Turmerictolly · 03/05/2025 00:44

… and Diana said the same about Charles so not sure why people are jumping to defend him. He had an affair whilst he was married to a young and inexperienced woman. He’s not a prince amongst men.

TheHerboriste · 03/05/2025 00:45

Needspaceforlego · 02/05/2025 23:22

I think this is it.
Charles loves him dearly, remember him walking Meghan down the aisle, taking her Mums arm as they left the church.

It's trust that has gone.
Charles doesn't trust him. And more importantly William doesn't trust him. William guards his families privacy dearly too and I think it would really hurt William if the smallest snippet got out about his children.
I think they were testing him around the Queens death. Telling him stuff like she'd be flown or she'd be going on the train that was all leaked to the press. The plan had been made years earlier for what was to happen should HMQ die in Balmoral or other residences.

The late queen even made unheard of concessions for MeAgain and they threw it in her face as she was dying.

They are scum. W & K know it. So do most of the relatives.

They are toast if KC dies. I think that is starting to sink in.

tinyspiny · 03/05/2025 01:00

YABU , anything anyone in the RF says to H is just fodder for the next interview / book / rant therefore it is sensible to say nothing to him . He has bought this entirely on himself and now doesn’t like it that he’s actually irrelevant to most people in the UK now .

Velmy · 03/05/2025 01:03

NewGirlInTown · 03/05/2025 00:31

Not a hope in hell.
William knows enough to never let Harry near his own family again.

Has Harry ever said anything bad about his brother's family?

Genuine question, I don't really follow anything to do with any of them. Just find it incredibly interesting/weird that they're still a thing in their current form in this day and age. I guess there was some hope that the brothers - Harry especially - might have been able to modernise the institution a little?

TheAutumnCrow · 03/05/2025 01:07

NewGirlInTown · 03/05/2025 00:30

Harry is a buffoon and a drug addled liar.
The King is wise to keep him at arms length from the rest of the family.
Harry will be living off his dead mother for ever.

Harry will be living off his dead mother for ever.

And accusing people like the iconic star of Pulp Fiction of doing the same!

H is such a lame wanger.

LaurenBacalls · 03/05/2025 01:09

I agree with this.

at the end of the day, being a spare if pretty psychologically devastating. He said a few times I was born into this family and he’s right - his family may hate what he’s said but does that mean he and his family shouldn’t receive protection? I don’t think so.

I also have a family estrangement and the reality is that you never stop loving the person despite the circumstances. It’s devastating for everyone,

Wintersgirl · 03/05/2025 01:14

I think Harry would have been tested who his father is waaay before now, he was probably tested as a baby when Diana had the affair with Hewitt, there's no way on earth the RF wouldn't have made sure he was Charles son. I think Charles is his father you only have to look at the likeness between Prince Phillip and Harry...

To think that not speaking to your own son  is not a good look for the King ?
TheAutumnCrow · 03/05/2025 01:15

LaurenBacalls · 03/05/2025 01:09

I agree with this.

at the end of the day, being a spare if pretty psychologically devastating. He said a few times I was born into this family and he’s right - his family may hate what he’s said but does that mean he and his family shouldn’t receive protection? I don’t think so.

I also have a family estrangement and the reality is that you never stop loving the person despite the circumstances. It’s devastating for everyone,

He and his family DO get protection in the UK, via RAVEC, as deemed appropriate on a special bespoke basis which is (a) free to H, but costs us the UK taxpayers, and (b) more than other adult offspring and siblings of monarchs are getting.

LadyWiddiothethird · 03/05/2025 01:20

Harry tells lies and is a drug addict.He couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Needspaceforlego · 03/05/2025 01:21

Velmy · 03/05/2025 00:00

Charles, like most royals, has repeatedly put the institution ahead of his own family. Not sure why anyone would think that'll change just because he's about to croak.

I wonder if William will extend the olive branch when Charlie is gone? 🤔

William is more likely to burn the olive branch after the hurt Harry has caused to his Dad and Kate.

They'll be no reconciliation with Harry while he's with Meghan. Harry might just might be accepted back grovelling without her.

chachahide · 03/05/2025 01:21

DinaofCloud9 · 02/05/2025 21:10

I wouldn't believe just what Harry is saying to be honest.

This.

Also, if the king does speak to Harry, it’ll end up in a special with Oprah or splashed across the tabloids.

Harry has publically shared some very personal stuff that should never have been in the public domain. His sister in law and father have both been battling cancer, he needs to shut up.

Velmy · 03/05/2025 01:23

LadyWiddiothethird · 03/05/2025 01:20

Harry tells lies and is a drug addict.He couldn’t lie straight in bed.

Drug addict? Where has this come from?

HerNextDoorAgain · 03/05/2025 01:28

🎻This, but smaller.

Needspaceforlego · 03/05/2025 01:28

Velmy · 03/05/2025 01:03

Has Harry ever said anything bad about his brother's family?

Genuine question, I don't really follow anything to do with any of them. Just find it incredibly interesting/weird that they're still a thing in their current form in this day and age. I guess there was some hope that the brothers - Harry especially - might have been able to modernise the institution a little?

He might not have said anything about the kids but he / Meghan blamed Kate for making Meghan cry.

Kate was days after giving birth. Worried about shoes rubbing on tiny Charlotte's bare feet and arguing over socks n tights.

All that stuff was leaked by H&M

mathanxiety · 03/05/2025 01:36

MereNoelle · 02/05/2025 21:17

I assume he’s concerned that if he talks to Harry, Harry will put the conversations in his next book.

So maybe have a nice, friendly conversation in which you express your undying love for your son and his family?

askmenow · 03/05/2025 01:37

The King will have been advised he is currently unable to speak with his son given Harry has had an ongoing court case against his Majesty's Government. His own father's Government! This precludes his father from having any contact.

Legally his father, the King, cannot talk to him until the case is finally settled.

BUT as per usual ....Harry will play the victim over and over again. He's an idiot if he doesn't think most people see through these shenanigans.

TheAutumnCrow · 03/05/2025 01:40

Velmy · 03/05/2025 01:23

Drug addict? Where has this come from?

Harry’s autobiography called Spare and his own Netflix output.

StrawberryWater · 03/05/2025 01:44

I don't like Harry but there's a lot of merit to what he says.

Why anyone thinks the royal family don't treat their own members like garbage is beyond me. It's gone on since the year dot and time and time again establishment, order and the protection of rule is the only thing King Charles and the Queen before him are interested in.

They haven't had some major turn around, aren't some suddenly open and accessible and they haven't stopped being the same nasty bunch of blowhards they've always been. They just have better PR managers now.

Diana might've been a bit of a cow herself but what the royals did to her was despicable. Charles is a gross human being. William and his mental health campaigns? Hahahahahahaha sorry but do me a favour. The British press might not report on what he gets up to but the rest of the world's media does.

I don't honestly think they'd care if Harry or Meghan were harmed in anyway as long as they're able to carry on as before.

In 20 years from now Prince Louis will probably be treated the same way as Harry. He's already been labelled as 'different' a bit of a 'scamp' and a 'trouble maker' and naughty.

Velmy · 03/05/2025 01:47

TheAutumnCrow · 03/05/2025 01:40

Harry’s autobiography called Spare and his own Netflix output.

I know he'd talked about doing coke when he was younger and that he smokes a bit of weed (legal where he lives)...that doesn't make him a drug addict.

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