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To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

536 replies

Marmaladelover · 02/05/2025 21:08

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

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Leafy3 · 04/05/2025 10:27

People complaining that the royals still treat Andrew as one of the family are forgetting that they probably believe he's innocent of the allegations.

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 10:50

Some of you need to go and read the ongoing thread in Relationships with the title about growing up in a stately home. You might have a better idea of reality.

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 11:04

@Createausername1970

Im well aware that Louis isn’t the ‘spare’ but the Windsor PR machine needs a woman they can cast as the ‘work horse’ asap.
Kate and William do the square root of nothing and have made it clear they plan to do even less.
So they will put their daughter ( I’ve forgotten her name momentarily) in the Anne role and Louis will be ‘rogue’ or the ‘baddie’ depending on what they need to distract their remaining supporters with.

legsekeven · 04/05/2025 14:00

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 11:04

@Createausername1970

Im well aware that Louis isn’t the ‘spare’ but the Windsor PR machine needs a woman they can cast as the ‘work horse’ asap.
Kate and William do the square root of nothing and have made it clear they plan to do even less.
So they will put their daughter ( I’ve forgotten her name momentarily) in the Anne role and Louis will be ‘rogue’ or the ‘baddie’ depending on what they need to distract their remaining supporters with.

you are seriously overthinking this

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 14:34

Want to bet?

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 14:35

It’s already started with Louis

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 04/05/2025 14:36

JMSA · 04/05/2025 07:49

Just get shot of the whole bloody lot of them.

Definitely.

BoredZelda · 04/05/2025 14:45

BunnyRuddington · 02/05/2025 21:14

It really does belong in the Royal Family section. I don’t give a flying fuck whether they talk to one another or not. And if you believe anything that Harry says, well you need to start having a think about what other things you’ve heard and believe.

If you disbelieve what he says and only believe an establishment known for closing ranks whilst also working against each other when it suits, then you might want to look at why you dislike the only person who has the courage to protect his family. If Charles had done that, Diana would still be alive.

BoredZelda · 04/05/2025 14:49

Needspaceforlego · 04/05/2025 07:15

Harry could have had a great life as a 'Spare' in exactly the same position as Anne and Edward / Sophie.
You wouldn't exactly say Andrew is slumming it either.

Harry's cousins all seem to be getting on with making their own way in the world. Peter has been divorced twice but the rest seem to be getting in OK.

Like Princess Margaret did? Because that’s a far more relevant comparison.

lizzyBennet08 · 04/05/2025 15:52

It’s totally clear that Charles couldn’t talk to him while the court case was ongoing. It would be akin to the defendant making contact with one of the witnesses before a trial.

Im not a fan of Charles really but feel that he was totally correct in refusing to have any conversation or input into the process while legal proceedings were ongoing.
Can you imagine the headlines if he was seen as king of England to have intervened or even had a conversation about a legal case involving his son. It would
come
up in court and could have the potential to collapse the monarchy.

StopStartStop · 04/05/2025 15:57

Harry betrayed his family, which could cause the monarchy to collapse. So it's not a small thing. The king is an old guy with cancer who wants to do his king-work before he dies.

He doesn't owe a thing to that prat who left, or to the awful woman he left with.

Dear King, don't talk to Harry. He'll betray you again. Talk to William and Catherine. And George. If you all play this right, and I know you are trying, George will be king one day. And let the intelligence people work on that woman. We'd believe pretty much anything they said about her.

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 16:00

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 11:04

@Createausername1970

Im well aware that Louis isn’t the ‘spare’ but the Windsor PR machine needs a woman they can cast as the ‘work horse’ asap.
Kate and William do the square root of nothing and have made it clear they plan to do even less.
So they will put their daughter ( I’ve forgotten her name momentarily) in the Anne role and Louis will be ‘rogue’ or the ‘baddie’ depending on what they need to distract their remaining supporters with.

As usual you are so well informed you don't even know names😂 . Well that makes for a good argument - not.

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 16:03

It's pretty obvious that there are posters here just trying to take away from the fact that Harry has had a major setback. They are spouting fake news in an attempt to divert from this. 🙄

MichaelandKirk · 04/05/2025 16:04

H and M have made a decision to leave the RF. Unfortunately they seem to also want the trappings of royalty and have treated the wider family appallingly.

If I was a member of this family I wouldn’t know if I was being recorded, misquoted or set up by those two. This cancer is for KC to fight. Not for Harry to speculate on in front of millions.

As for thinking they can dictate green policies to the rest of us whilst taking private jets words fail me.

BigAnne · 04/05/2025 18:46

lizzyBennet08 · 04/05/2025 15:52

It’s totally clear that Charles couldn’t talk to him while the court case was ongoing. It would be akin to the defendant making contact with one of the witnesses before a trial.

Im not a fan of Charles really but feel that he was totally correct in refusing to have any conversation or input into the process while legal proceedings were ongoing.
Can you imagine the headlines if he was seen as king of England to have intervened or even had a conversation about a legal case involving his son. It would
come
up in court and could have the potential to collapse the monarchy.

There's no such person as the King of England.

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 20:01

And look at the palaver with David Beckham and Brooklyn too 🤷‍♀️

MereNoelle · 04/05/2025 20:04

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 20:01

And look at the palaver with David Beckham and Brooklyn too 🤷‍♀️

What’s that got to do with Prince Harry? 😂

landryclarke · 04/05/2025 20:09

HeySugarSugar · 03/05/2025 03:59

Where’s the evidence that it was the government that “demanded the children be trotted out”? Have never seen that anywhere 🙄

There has been a lot of speculation that the government encouraged it as the royal family were unpopular at the time and they feared booing, they felt the presence of the sons would stop this.

foreverblowingbubbless · 04/05/2025 20:12

MereNoelle · 04/05/2025 20:04

What’s that got to do with Prince Harry? 😂

Well it's not a good look for David Beckham either is it ? It makes as much sense as the title of this thread 🤷‍♀️

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 20:49

David beckham isn’t head of a church or paid half a billion to be head of state
The Windsors are revealed to be cruel and cold
No surprise to me but there are those who still believe he fairytale . Harry’s recent interview was his way of recording the facts before the royals start their re write of history.

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 20:54

BoredZelda · 04/05/2025 14:45

If you disbelieve what he says and only believe an establishment known for closing ranks whilst also working against each other when it suits, then you might want to look at why you dislike the only person who has the courage to protect his family. If Charles had done that, Diana would still be alive.

Exactly this
’ an establishment stitch up’ as Harry put it

myrtleWilson · 04/05/2025 21:05

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 20:49

David beckham isn’t head of a church or paid half a billion to be head of state
The Windsors are revealed to be cruel and cold
No surprise to me but there are those who still believe he fairytale . Harry’s recent interview was his way of recording the facts before the royals start their re write of history.

Harry has a long and distinguished history of not relaying facts at all, prefering his 'truth' over objective evidence - cf: death of the Queen Mother

Serpentstooth · 04/05/2025 21:08

Beckham in line for the throne? I thought he only wanted a knighthood.

Letsummercommence · 04/05/2025 21:16

Ukisgaslit · 04/05/2025 20:49

David beckham isn’t head of a church or paid half a billion to be head of state
The Windsors are revealed to be cruel and cold
No surprise to me but there are those who still believe he fairytale . Harry’s recent interview was his way of recording the facts before the royals start their re write of history.

I don’t think it hurts a Head if State to be restrained and diplomatic even if it comes across as cold. They, as in themselves have to be representative of a nation. Divulging their own personal issues is the antithesis of that.

The point about Beckham I suppose is that their family are also loaded and very close and supportive of each other. And still of their kids seems to cut themselves off.
The difference is Brooklyn isn’t risking his parents work by his actions.
Harry is and he also knows going public isn’t the way to get his father and brother on side.

Needspaceforlego · 04/05/2025 22:00

landryclarke · 04/05/2025 20:09

There has been a lot of speculation that the government encouraged it as the royal family were unpopular at the time and they feared booing, they felt the presence of the sons would stop this.

I doubt the government had anything to do with the decision on who walked behind the coffin.

The people who needed to be there was Charles and Charles Spencer, but it was a bit of a weird situation. A Royal Ceremonial Funeral when really they were divorced.

Philip encouraged the boys to do it because he thought they might regret it as they got older if they didn't.

There was no confirmation about Harry until the time of the funeral when the 'pre funeral' chat started on the telly, the commentators did not know if Harry was walking. There was a Plan B that he could travel in a carriage, probably with HMQ.

The knowledge that a 16yo Philip walked behind his sister, husband and there children really puts a different spin on it for me. That must have been an equally if not worse procession to be involved with.

It's not like he was asking or encouraging the boys to do something he hadn't done before.