To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

Just get shot of the whole bloody lot of them.

Remember, we only have Harry’s version of the situation !

YABU. We only ever hear Harry’s side.

The King couldn’t speak to Harry about security because it was an ongoing court case.

And if he and the RF aren’t speaking to him more generally it’s because they know him and Mouthpiece Meghan just put everything online and out in books and interviews. I wouldn’t tell him anything either. H&M chose their path. Very stupid and shortsighted.

I suspect Camilla is the driving force of the rift and possibly the one who questioned what colour the grandchildren would be.

Whatever you think of the royals (I'm a republican in that respect), you can appreciate the pain of losing his mother so young and his father marrying the other woman who has her own family and grandchildren to prioritise. They both caused heartbreak and humiliation for his mother. They seem to be doing the same to Harry.

Agree

How can you blame Camilla. She seems to get on with W&K and Charles seems to get on with being a Granddad too all the DGC.
There's a photo out the of Charles suited and booted spinning one of Camilla DGC.
He's held one of Camillas DGC on the balcony which i think was at William and Kates wedding.

Diana wasn't exactly innocent going into the marriage either, married for money incredibly nieve and encouraged by her family.
What were they thinking?
Who in there right mind would encourage a 19 year old to get married to a 32 yo that they'd only met 7 times!

Diana embarrassed the RF and , most importantly, William with her extra marital antics . William refused to speak to her after the MB interview.
W and C seem close to Camilla .

A quick google search. ( maybe run a caption competition?)

That's not true, he wasn't happy about it but there are several photos of them together shortly afterwards.

William called his mother paranoid- feeding directly into the Charles and Camilla smear campaign against Diana

Did William say he wasn’t happy about his Dad marrying Camilla or are we relying on Harry’s version ?

If each time I spoke to my son and we disagreed and I then found his view of events charted in the local newspaper I would indeed be very wary of him and not inclined to build bridges

@curious79
Had you also been throwing your son to the wolves in the tabloid press ?

Sorry @midlandsmummy123 you meant W and D ,
W watched the MB programme with his House Master . Diana phoned afterwards and William refused to speak to her .
Diana herself said that.

That’s a very easy thing to say! I can’t imagine my children ever doing anything bad enough to stop me talking to them. But some children do(rich or poor). It’s not a class thing or a wealth thing, you just can’t imagine it until it happens

Exactly!

Not on the same scale but I have a niece who takes to Facebook when she has a fall out with her DH (or other family members/friends). It's excruciatingly painful to watch so I can only guess how it feels to be the victim.

But he doesn't want to be welcomed back? He isn't asking for forgiveness.

You can't forgive someone and welcome them back when they are still fighting you.

I actually think Charles does still love Harry. And I'm sure it hurts him that he has 2 DGC he doesn't know.
But ultimately he cannot trust Harry won't cash in on any conversations that they have.

They as a family waited until the right moment to announce Kates cancer, the start of the school holidays. Give as much time as possible for the dust to settle before the children went back to school.
Harry was told just before it was broadcast. Think of all the people who must have known before that broadcast royal staff, the camera crew, hospital, family.

They do not trust him not to blab to.the press.

Harry sees everything through his own lens. It seems that he can’t think about anyone else for a second. Charles’ illness? ‘I don’t know how much time he has left.’ He doesn’t express any sympathy for a Charles or Camilla going through cancer.

He hasn’t mentioned Kate’s cancer, or how traumatic that must be for her and her family.

It’s all him, him, him.

Megan certainly hasn’t helped. Mocking the queen with that stupid curtsy, and all the lies she told - that she had never heard of Harry, that they actually got married days before their wedding, etc. makes it very hard to like her.

And he only found out about Charles’s recent brief stay in hospital at the same time as everyone else .

I think they’re all frightened to death of talking to him. Everything ends up on Oprah, or in a book or being told to the BBC.

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Louis isn't the spare.

I think it’s fab the king isn’t speaking to him. Shows everyone out there being affected by a narcissist (well 2 of them) that you can set boundaries and cease contact to protect you and your family. Fuck what anyone else thinks.

Yea that too.
It absolutely screams very loudly they do not trust him or Meghan to hold their confidence.