To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

My own take is that it's an unfortunate situation all round.

Harry had a difficult, even if privileged, upbringing, that has probably given him a lot of paranoia about certain things, some of it justified. His mother was indirectly killed by excessive media attention and he grew up with intense pressure interest in his activities. Also, it was always going to be difficult for him leaving the Royal Family - he's not exactly brains of Britain and has an expensive lifestyle (including necessary security, so not entirely his own choice) with limited ways to fund it independently except selling dirt on his family.

His father (quite rightly in my view) doesn't want to say a word more than necessary to Harry in case it's fed back to the press. Which makes a reconciliation almost impossible. His brother probably doesn't want him near him or his family for the same reason.

Harry has two young children and I think he genuinely believes that, without a very high level of security, their safety may be at risk. Given the intense media interest in Royal children generally, combined with the toxicity towards Meghan in this country, he's probably not wrong that there is a fairly high level of risk towards his family.

YABVU
Harry is a complete money grabbing Judas who threw his ENTIRE family under the bus.

Could you forgive that?

'Of course because of who he is he is recognisable to millions of people and do you think he could really go about his every day life without being constantly pestered and that is the very least of his concerns'

But this is a bit rubbish. Harry's managed to travel to and from the UK several times without anyone being aware of him until he chose to make his presence public. He's said himself in his book that he went shopping etc without anyone noticing.

The reason he's so visible now is because he's put himself there - he's repeatedly done interviews, putting himself in the public eye far more than he ever was as a royal.

Plenty of people, including other members of the rf, seem able to go about their lives with little fuss.

Harry's current situation is entirely of his own making. I'm not surprised his father and brother are keeping their distance. Harry demanding apologies and throwing shade around is doing absolutely nothing to help the situation. He needs to grow up a bit and stop peddling his whinging around the media.

There is nothing to keep from us.
King Charles’s health is his business, he is the only one that gets to decide how much information he gives, we are not entitled to be privy to any one’s medical information.

Does it actually matter to the country if KC has weeks or years left? The entire point of Royalty is that we know who is next in line plus there is a plan B ,C etc if that’s needed. There’s no surprises when he does go sooner or later.

The Royal source said

“The remarks about his illness were in particularly poor taste and of course suggest something entirely contrary to the reality”.

https://www.itv.com/news/2025-05-03/royal-source-late-queen-would-be-truly-horrified-by-prince-harry-interview

If everything you said to a person was going to be repeated or the fact that you met at all used as a reason to make stuff up, and there was a hefty number of people who would kill you if they could, you might find it reckless to meet them.

He said he wanted to reconcile on the one hand, and publicly blamed them for interfering with decision to not grant him security on the other. Im not a fan of Charles but this is not one I’ll hold against him.

Also let’s not forget he increased his own security risk by talking about taking out the Taliban “like chess pieces”.

Harry is such a whiny, childish, vain and ungrateful little shit and he lives in a delusion where he actually thinks he's a cut above. It's not his fault he was raised in that delusion, but he's been an adult and a father for a long time now, and just needs to do better.

Someone in Charles position has to constantly think about treacherous scumbags selling him out to the press. Harry the "stallion", who moaned about Willy being mean to him and breaking his necklace? FFS. How could you be sure that Hasbeen Hazza wouldn't try to monetise your conversation again and tell more lies? Must be heartbreaking for Charles.

Harry must be as dumb as a bag of hammers, I cannot imagine what he thought would happen when he ran squealing to the press and paid someone to write a crappy book whining about his life (have not read but didn't have to all the highlights were all over the internet). Nobody in those circles can afford to be around him now, the King is their leader, they have to show him loyalty or be kicked out of high society too, and nobody would dare have a conversation with him or his Mrs as you'd never know if they were secretly taping you and ready to run to the press. He even dobbed friends in for drug use. What. A. Wanker.

Harry is in a worse position than Edward was with Wallace. He has fucked himself, forever.

From the clips I have seen, I was struck how H never seems to take accountability for his own actions. Maybe that is how he is always portrayed? He said he wants to reconcile with his family and forgives them - zero understanding that this would probably add to the friction and get right up their noses. He always seems to play the victim card.

Also a quick Google shows that in the US H&M fund their own security, so not sure why they feel it would be impossible in the UK. If he comes in an official capacity then, of course, that should (and I guess would) be paid for.

Harry is the very definition of privilege. He just doesn't understand that he has it because of a complete lack of awareness. Having left the royal family he now has bills to pay and limited means to afford them. The royal family as an institution never learns and repeats the same mistakes. The 'spares' if you want to use the term have the best education that money can buy but rarely if ever do they end up having actual careers that can help them sustain a lifestyle to which they become accustomed. They always end up deeply unhappy as the purse strings get cut eventually and they have no real purpose. He needed to retrain after he left tge army and get an actual job.

As for his dad not speaking to him, it would be very difficult if you couldn't trust your child wouldn't blab everytime you did. He has also said some rather horrid things about his step mother whom the King appears to love beyond all else so that was never going to go down well

Exactly

This is who the Windsors are . Andrew is more acceptable than Harry because Andrew keeps his mouth shut . What secrets are they so worried will be revealed. William was seen driving Andrew .Andrew is welcome at public events . William is described almost daily as being ‘incandescent’ about Harry and ready for revenge . Over what? Spare was mild. Charles’ own book about his parents was far worse .
Don’t forget Charles is ( ridiculously) anointed head of the Church of England and he’s unable to set even the slightest example by reaching out . Instead the Windsors plot in the shadows . They do not want Harry to set foot in the uk - Harry is too much competition. They all scarper when he appears.
I have read Spare and he’s generous to Charles. Charles does not deserve that generosity .
I hope Harry publishes another book and does not hold back . Burn it all down

This.

@Realitydoesntcare

You say that Charles has to worry constantly about being sold out to the press by anyone around him . That is complete nonsense.
No employee can say a word- they are all threatened with legal action
We know about Diana and Virginia Guiffre, sadly.
This is what Harry speaking out is so frightening for the Windsors- the whole royalty scam is a facade and Harry can expose that . The Windsors are selling a lie of the ‘perfect family’ for the gullible and bored.
And as a republican I’d note that Harry’s main ire is reserved for the suits who surround the institution, not the family itself. He describes William and Charles as trapped . There is an argument for getting rid of the monarchy to free the individuals currently acting as ‘royals’
Louis will be next to be the spare thrown to the press to make the heir look better.

It would matter not at all if anyone was threatened with legal action if they were telling the truth. That would have zero effect since truth is an absolute defence in UK law.

And, clearly, people are NOT threatened into silence because Hasbeen Hazza went squealing and whining, for years and years, to anybody who would listen.

He's just a whining over privileged conceited horse abusing little shit who appeals to the gullible and bored. And anything he has to say about his family he has been involved in up to the eyeballs too, so he can't do them much more harm, though he'd love to.

As I am not a fan of the royals and want nothing to do with any of them, I see him quite clearly for what he is.

I live in hope that he fucks off and shuts up forever, but of course he won't, snivelling in public and begging for attention is all he has.

But your children presumably do not go on talk shows to lie about your relationship every other week.

@Realitydoesntcare

So Harry wasn’t lying then by your logic

I remember reading about an incident with a former royal servant - he was close to Diana . He was threatened with court action - I can’t remember why I’d have to look it up - but he stood his ground and said see you in court .
The palace then ‘remembered’ they’d been mistaken

You have no idea if he has lied and King Charles had his moments of talking publicly about his unhappy childhood. Diana did the same, he is following the modelling from both his parents .Different times, different methods.

King Charles’s child should come first, not his job. Hard to respect somebody who puts his job and protocol above a child who has been through a very difficult childhood involving the distressing death of his mother and a very public and unpleasant parental marriage breakdown and divorce.

He's done plenty of lying, and there is nothing whatsoever in my posts to suggest otherwise. But you already know that. I daresay some of his whiny shit was true, but you can't tell what's what with a proven liar and snivelling egotist.

So, as stated, he's a lying little shit, he boasted about killing people and caused security issues for himself, he whined about Willy wrestling him because he's a pathetic arse, his father must stay away from him because Hasbeen Hazza would love to cause him more harm but as Hasbeen no longer gets to speak to anybody he can no longer twist the truth to beg for attention. He harmed horses, wore a Nazi armband and spent his life getting pissed and doing drugs at the taxpayers expense, he's been trying to cash in on losing his mother for decades, aged 40 it is well and truly past its sell by date, and he marched off screaming loudly for years on end that he's left the royals but he just will. not. shut. up. And, as he is pretty much useless for any real job, he's getting angrier and more desperate by the hour and still whining about his dad in public.

I couldn't give a fuck what happens to any of them, but you should write to old Hasbeen and tell him how much you salivate at the thought of him. Nobody else cares.

Excuse me? Calm down lol

The only thing I ‘salivate’ over is the thought of the truth coming out about the Windsors and the house of cards finally falling . Harry is helpful in that area

Harry could have had a great life as a 'Spare' in exactly the same position as Anne and Edward / Sophie.
You wouldn't exactly say Andrew is slumming it either.

Harry's cousins all seem to be getting on with making their own way in the world. Peter has been divorced twice but the rest seem to be getting in OK.

Yes you really should calm down lol. Nothing new is coming out about his family, any thing juicy he could spill he'd be up to his own neck in too.

He's done as much damage as he could. Now he's an outcast with no family. And such a boring, stupid little man.

I'd say Harry's beyond awful behaviour is garnering tremendous support for KC and the rest of the Royal family. Most families have a Twat so huge empathy generated.

Oo maybe you're on to something.. and Harry is actually playing a hugely self sacrificial long game?

Be a stratospheric twat and make the RF look better by garnering sympathy for them?