To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

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Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

If this is true, which I would not necessarily take to be the case based on Harry's word alone - I suspect KC has learned the hard way that if the choice is between silence and having everything you say twisted and sold to the Press, silence it has to be.

My parents are no contact with my brother. Not one big fall out. Just lots of smaller stuff over the years.
They will never speak again. Fault lies on both sides but more my brothers ( in my opinion)
At least he didn't go to the press/published a book/gave interviews to air the dirty laundry! I think to do this is disgusting! And actually Charles and William haven't retaliated or commented even though they must be very upset/angry!

Well, he is your king if we’re being pedantic! Charles was coerced into a marrying a woman he didn’t love, who he didn’t know and with whom he had nothing in common with because he was told it was his duty. His only mistake was to marry her in the first place. Always amuses me when people so readily accept the narrative so readily pushed by Diana and her ‘team’. I don’t really care about the paternity of Harry but by god, his behaviour is allll his mothers!

As the head of the Church

The King should show forgiveness & welcome Harry & his family back

Therefore I agree, that the situation looks worse for the Royal Family, than for Harry & his family

KC is in a difficult position. One word to Harry ,he goes running to Megs and it probably makes it worse .press get wind an it blows up.All of us are free to marry within reason.KC was under pressure to marry the right girl .Camilla wasn't it then .PH is obv hurting from Diana's death.I lost my Dad young as well ,the pain never goes away really.PH needs to come to terms with it for his own sake

Families are hard- tbh I wouldn’t want contact with Charles if I was Harry and Id concentrate on my own family but it’s easier said than done.
Charles does not surprise me, he’s a very cold and selfish man. H&M are best off out of it.

Of course because of who he is he is recognisable to millions of people and do you think he could really go about his every day life without being constantly pestered and that is the very least of his concerns

and the British press would never leave him alone he is too lucrative and the most senior royals are seen as owned by the public, belonging to the public their rights of privacy don’t exist they couldn’t even grieve for their mother in private the public wanted updates so they were paraded about for all of us to see

there is immense interest in him in the US

The story is who he is and still tied in with the fascination of his mother

it’s a horrible life with huge privilege the least that should be owed to him is peace of mind to keep his family safe

They don’t need to. They are worth billions and have their security bill paid for. They are the heirs which the establishment curtails to. How they don’t recognise this or the difficult life and position Harry has had is beyond me. He is King Charles’s son and he lost his mother in distressing circumstances at a young age, he witnessed her distress and hounding from the press and their marriage breakdown first hand, he has had to fit into a system he didn’t want…

Yes many have had a worse life however that doesn’t negate his struggles or the need for a supportive father and brother. I think they all look pretty shit to be honest.

I don’t agree with this. Harry is Diana’s son, that in itself has made him public property in a way that doesn’t remotely apply to Zara or Peter, or even Princess Margaret. Irrespective of what other choices he makes.

How very presumptuous to claim that you have any right to "forgive" something you only know about through a few press reports and which had no effect on you personally. Diana was getting on well with Charles by the time she died, so she obviously either forgave or didn't feel there was anything to forgive.

When Harry makes a full public apology acknowledging the hurt and damage he has done to his family and our nation, and promising his appalling behaviour ends there, then I am absolutely certain his family will show forgiveness. Until then, absolutely not.

Do they not have to do the same?

I agree with you. Look at Wills and Kate when they lived in Anglesey.
They could have gone quietly and by now would be nothing like the media attention on them.

If he does nothing even vaguely interesting then whilst people might have an interest in him, there is nothing to write about him other than ‘Harry goes to the shops’ which would also hold interest for about 1 day.

he can live a quiet life. He is actively choosing not to. He has to take some responsibility for the situation he finds himself in.

Do the British public also have to take some responsibility for choosing to continue to have a monarchy and to consume and create news and gossip about them? (I’m including myself in this, since I’m on here). We could live a quiet life and never hear about Harry. We are actively choosing not to.

I don’t agree with this. Harry is Diana’s son, that in itself has made him public property in a way that doesn’t remotely apply to Zara or Peter, or even Princess Margaret. Irrespective of what other choices he makes.

Theres an entire generation who never knew Diana alive. She is a piece of royal history forever stuck in the narrative she’s given. Harry and KC can use this or not.

The generation that never knew Diana alive isn’t the generation that’s currently editing major newspapers and controlling public programming etc. When they come into those roles then yes interest in Diana may be less. But that’s not where we are currently.

Harry is a product of his parent’s making.
Neither of them, nor I suspect many others in the family, were ideal role models.

Both his parents dealt with personal issues by speaking to the media - and making things a whole lot worse.
Not sure really that Harry has done much different to what both his parents did years ago.

They're like a posh version of the Jeremy Kyle show.

He wants more security than the literal heir to the throne to be seen as more important more at risk more in need of protection the simple fact is he isn't and doesn't need it

Agreed.

The skit last year (was it South Park?) The World Wide "we want privacy" Tour.

If they don't want to continue to be working Royals, then fair enough. I wouldn't want to do it, your life is not your own. I was fully accepting of their decision to walk away and live private lives. Good on them, was my thought.

But this constant bleating, complaining, wanting to use the Sussex moniker, wanting their children to be HRH, cashing in on their Royalty, nicking the Queen's childhood nickname for their daughter, it all annoys me. One thing or the other.

My understanding is that Harry will receive protection when he is over here, but just the same for any other private person. I am guessing he can also bring his own security too, but they will have to abide by our firearms laws etc.

Harry is a grown man. He should have thought of all this and discussed it properly with the right people first, before deciding to flounce. If anyone is to blame for him not having the security he thinks he is entitled to, or putting his family at risk, then it's on him for just assuming that everything would remain the same. It's like leaving a job and then complaining they aren't paying into your pension any more, or haven't renewed your season ticket loan.

Harry is petulant and I don't believe a word out of his mouth.

So Diana was a slut?

Be a dad, not a king?