To think that not speaking to your own son is not a good look for the King ?

[Marmaladelover]

Don’t get me wrong I think Harry has been a bit of an entitled burk but even so I was shocked that there has not been a reconciliation between Harry and Megan and the King and Queen at least to be civil to each other .
Refusing to even speak just seems like sulking to me !
That said I don’t think Harry telling the world and washing yet more dirty laundry in public is going to help matters .

Maybe some folk will think this comment belongs in the Royal Family thread rather than AIBU but it’s more about mumsnet standards ( sulking is not good ) and whether they should apply to those in high office .

Even JFK and Krushev had a hotline after the Cuban Crisis !

I agree. Charles is the father, he should fix it. Of course he shouldnt have let it get this far to begin with.
Harry has made various comments wanting to be on better terms and thats obviously not been reciprocated.
I think charles and william are being as controlled as they were when it all kicked off but they should make changes. Charles is the king! His "advisors" cant overrule him.

As a couple of PPs have pointed out, the correct spelling is “berk” - I don’t normally care about spelling, but this word has some seriously amusing etymology. It’s short for “Berkshire hunt” which is rhyming slang.

I agree that Harry is indeed a berk, like many other members of his freeloading family.

You know it couldn't have been easy for PP either. He did what he thought was right. I can't imagine how horrific it must have been for him. The memories of walking behind his older sister and little neices / nephews inc a newborn baby, born and killed on the same flight, when he was only 16.

That knowledge that he'd done it so young himself and in even more horrific circumstances totally puts a different light on it for me.

There are two sides to every story. Harry has behaved appallingly. I wouldn’t believe a word he says.

How can Charles fix Harry's rent-a-mouth?
Glue it shut or just give him nothing to talk about.

He only gets security if invited for functions.

If I was his parent I’d not sure I could sleep at night knowing he is in the US with god only knows what security and can’t come home for anything other than functions if he is to be safe here.

He kind have had no choice but to write that book having to fund top security.

I don't think it's resolvable unfortunately.
DH and his dad fell out pretty spectacularly years ago. DH dad put everything on Facebook page for years. Every detail, every feeling he had, his angry thoughts, private information, made up crap...it all went on there. Begging DH to talk to him went on the Facebook page (even though DH has never had Facebook and couldn't see it). I only know because people would tell me and I once looked as his page wasn't private, and it was insane. Bizarrely, he never actually made the effort to actually contact DH in "real life" despite having his phone number and our address despite telling his followers he had.
I can say it certainly didn't do anything to help repair their relationship. How do you talk to someone who you know will instantly repeat everything you've said -with added embellishments -online? I can't imagine how bad it is at celeb level of publicity either, it was shit when it was just friends and family.

They never repaired their relationship and DH dad is now dead. He wasn't a nice man, but it's sad it all ended that way when it didn't need to. We NEVER responded in any way to him other than once, by private email, to politely ask him to stop. Guess where that went.

This- how weak!!! He is a father and being a parent trumps everything including being king.

Harry and Meghan aren't head of the Church of England though are they.

I am and will always be on Harry’s side. Charles is a loathsome, cruel, weak, cheating, misogynistic excuse for a man. I will never forget or forgive to my dying day how he treated Diana. Not my king.

Of course he’s also not Harry’s father, which is awkward…

He absolutely a choice whether to be public property. Why can zara and Peter live quiet lives away from any interest? They were grandchildren of the late Queen also. Whilst he is the son of the King, the only real interest is the line of succession and there are three Wales children who are now coming up to their teens. If Prince Harry just went and lived a quiet life like his cousins no one would take any interest whatsoever. remember Princess Margaret, despite her very colourful life, never caused the queen the level of problems Prince Harry causes.

He, himself, brings attention to his family. Megan also is now by monetising them. I have a degree of sympathy for him in that he didn’t ask to be born into the RF but at the same time he does have the choice to keep the royal titles. He also chooses to make money off the back of his family. Again, all choices. He says one thing and does another.

Apart from the fact he looks the spitting image of Charles? (They have exactly the same eyes- it is uncanny) Ironically, It is William who looks nothing like the king.

Tbf, I wouldnt talk to anyone who is likely to publish details of our private conversations either. Harry cannot be trusted. He's also probably a nightmare to deal with. I reckon any conversation with Harry would be about Harry trying to get what he wants from Daddy. He think the RF, Starmer and Yvette cooper are all here to pander to his demands. Entitled little brat. He probably shortens his dad's life by at least a few months with every conversation.

Only if there is a perceived threat will he get Met protection - this is the case by case basis they talk about. He can bring his own security but they are not allowed to be armed. If he does a public engagement with other member of the family he will be part of their security if needed, but if he is just visiting as a private citizen they are unlikely to offer him specific security (unless they have a specific threat they need to protect him over) which is what he is objecting to and why he has caused this fuss. He thinks he should get it as of right when he enters the country.

Of course he doesn’t

he is the son of the king and brother of future king and son of the women who nearly 30 years after her death is still a fascination to the public worldwide

Zara wasn’t paraded around as a child for the world to see her every move hasn’t been scrutinised

he can’t just step away from the public life unfortunately for him that is what is was born into that he has never had a choice over

In spare he wrote about going to the supermarket on his own with a cap on. What has changed so dramatically?
This notion that he can’t bring his family is nonsense. If they stayed at a royal residence ( several to chose from) they would be fine.

I’m sorry, what? He is the spitting image of James Hewitt.

i dont believe a word that comes out of his mouth tbh.

The whole thing is a ridiculous shitshow and only serves to reinforce that we should do away with the royal family altogether.

on this we will have to disagree. If he had moved to the US 5 years ago and lived a quiet life off his millions and not done all these court cases and books and his wife had kept herself off the TV and not done any media, do you think anyone would really have any major interest in him? If there is no story people won’t care. No one took any major interest in Princess Margaret in general or even Princess Anne.

To answer OP, I don't think poorly of KC for being in this situation. I'm close to being outright sympathetic that adult kids are tough.

I don't understand why Harry isn't keen to have a quieter, more private life. He & MM both have plenty of skills to earn money that don't need to involve talking about their private family relationships.

I'm not the king, he's not my son but he is an irritating brat. If we were related, I'd be keeping my distance. I saw this interview as it popped up unexpectedly on the news, I don't seek out royal stuff so am thankfully short on detail on PH but what a manipulative weasel he shows himself as. Both him and his wife not speaking to their respective fathers? Says a lot.

It is very unlikely that what the Prince says is true. Remember they have also chosen to fall out with his wife's family too.

Nope - put Prince Philip, King Charles and Prince Harry alongside each other and look at their eyes- they are honestly the same- slightly closer together than average. - quite distinctive.. It is why Prince Harry and Prince Philip looked similar when they were the same age.

And he should. £2 million a year security bill for life is a hefty bill to have. He will also need to think about provision for his kids and grandchildren too- for life. Meanwhile Liz Truss gets it all free.I’d be livid and frankly would have little thought re keeping my mouth shut.

King Charles shot himself in the foot by not putting fatherhood first. I don’t think he has had an easy life either however his kids should come first over the establishment and job and he has had the where with all to ensure mistakes aren’t continued to be made in further generations.