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To not understand why Farage needs to be so smug and flippant about people losing their job?

228 replies

LegUcler · 02/05/2025 20:25

Just seen reports of the speech in which Nigel Farage tells council staff who are employed on DEI initiatives and climate change to “find new careers”.

I get Reform view these things as a waste of public money, and if they’ve been democratically elected on that mandate, then those departments will be cut.

However, whatever you think of those departments, the people he’s talking about are about to lose their livelihoods. They’ll have bills and families. I’m not saying that means they’re immune to cuts or they shouldn’t lose their jobs. I just don’t know why he feels the need to be so shitty about it.

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BIossomtoes · 02/05/2025 21:45

Coolasfeck · 02/05/2025 21:44

Couple of years?! More like a couple of months when many of them are exposed as being on various ‘registers’ due to lack of proper vetting.

You’re right. I was being generous.

DeborahVancesBeehive · 02/05/2025 21:50

HoskinsChoice · 02/05/2025 21:26

They absolutely do exist! Take a look on LinkedIn there are numerous EDI specialists, particularly in the public sector.

My LA has put on huge amounts of training from the likes of Stonewall, Mermaids and other external consultants charging £££

We just got a message from the leader saying how worrying the recent Supreme Court judgement was and how they were proud to see and support all the LGBTQIA+ staff. But obviously the rights of women weren't mentioned 🙄

Dorisbonson · 02/05/2025 21:50

LegUcler · 02/05/2025 20:25

Just seen reports of the speech in which Nigel Farage tells council staff who are employed on DEI initiatives and climate change to “find new careers”.

I get Reform view these things as a waste of public money, and if they’ve been democratically elected on that mandate, then those departments will be cut.

However, whatever you think of those departments, the people he’s talking about are about to lose their livelihoods. They’ll have bills and families. I’m not saying that means they’re immune to cuts or they shouldn’t lose their jobs. I just don’t know why he feels the need to be so shitty about it.

Some people view DEI as oppressive and dictatorial, contrary to free speech and that DEI staff have pushed the balance away from equality in the workplace.

He is celebrating what he views as genuine equality coming and an end of special treatment and two tier systems.

You may disagree with his views but I suspect that is his angle and reason for celebration.

OonaStubbs · 02/05/2025 21:52

There are a lot of people working in the public sector whose jobs provide little to no value for the paying public. It's good that they should fear losing their jobs. The gravy train is over.

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 02/05/2025 21:54

FrothyCothy · 02/05/2025 21:36

I wonder if it’s the same one 😆

That would be funny but we haven’t gone reform 😀

Charmeleon33 · 02/05/2025 21:56

He’ll lose his own soon enough, I wouldn’t worry too much.

NettleTea · 02/05/2025 21:56

all I can ever think of Farage is that he looks like he would have terrible halitosis

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 02/05/2025 21:57

EasternStandard · 02/05/2025 21:41

Would you appreciate your job described as bloat?

So no, he wasn’t smug or flippant

Clafoutie · 02/05/2025 21:57

I can’t bear to see his gurning face everywhere, he looks like Zippy.
I don’t understand how anyone can find any appeal in him.

FrothyCothy · 02/05/2025 21:57

OonaStubbs · 02/05/2025 21:52

There are a lot of people working in the public sector whose jobs provide little to no value for the paying public. It's good that they should fear losing their jobs. The gravy train is over.

This gets said often - can you name some examples?

Dorisbonson · 02/05/2025 21:58

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/05/2025 20:49

I'm dreading the sense of entitlement his followers will now feel. I fear it will be like the xenophobic and racial harassment after the Brexit vote.

Do you mean the harassment and terrible atmosphere for immigrants in the UK which has led to record high levels of immigration to the UK?

Or do you mean the anti Semitism of senior members of the Labour party after Brexit?

SeaShellsSanctuary1 · 02/05/2025 21:58

HoskinsChoice · 02/05/2025 21:19

Sadly with the brexit vote, the covid antivaxxers and now today's vote, it has become clear just how stupid the public is. He is playing to the stupid and they're lapping it up. Today is a very dark day for British politics. Racism is seeping into the stupid's psyche and because the stupid outnumber the less stupid, they are winning. It's happening all over Europe. It's embarrassing that we allow Farage anywhere near our country's leadership and genuinely scary where this will end.

A major thing is that when you write things like this you exacerbate the problem.

Calling people stupid has the complete opposite effect. Just like Brexit, complaceny massively set in and rather than any attempt to campaign for their side they just called everyone else fucking idiots.

I believe that those who think they are better than the idiots are actually the biggest threat to themselves.

Charmeleon33 · 02/05/2025 21:58

Clafoutie · 02/05/2025 21:57

I can’t bear to see his gurning face everywhere, he looks like Zippy.
I don’t understand how anyone can find any appeal in him.

He looks like Eddy the Eagle from The Muppets!

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 02/05/2025 22:00

I agree with jewelcase

justasking111 · 02/05/2025 22:02

EveryFlavourJellyBeans · 02/05/2025 20:59

He has seen how the same messages have garnered support for Trump and thinks that will work here.

Unfortunately, his supporters are too stupid to realise that he is talking utter bollocks, he won't be able to sack anyone, because Councils have statutory duties to provide services and we have employment laws in this country.

It's all bluster from a man who should probably take a long hard look in the mirror, given how little time he has spent in his Clapham constituency since being elected.

This...

Councillors can bluster in meetings. It's the officers job to put them straight. New councillors are often a ball ache

Dorisbonson · 02/05/2025 22:07

FrothyCothy · 02/05/2025 21:57

This gets said often - can you name some examples?

I was a Director in the public sector at a relatively large organisation. Our funding was linked to a range of different outputs agreed years previously.

A lot of those outputs were pointless by the time I was there, we kept delivering them to maintain the funding for the organisation and keep people employed. No one cared about many of those outputs at that point but we were legally obliged to continue to deliver them. This is not true of every output by any means so please don't think I am describing everything that was delivered.

My role was to try and re-organise parts of the organise to deliver genuinely desired outputs (which we frequently weren't funded for). It was like a rubrics cube trying to find resources for change with zero extra capacity whilst delivering unnecessary inherited programmes.

Most of my stakeholders were uninformed and useless from an accountability and governance perspective - utterly out of their depth.

A lot of programmes and mechanism had badly designed and unnecessary layers of bureaucracy intended to ensure value for money and protect taxpayers but often did the opposite.

A lot of public servants work hard and are very well intentioned but some of their activities are unnecessary.

PiggyPigalle · 02/05/2025 22:08

CaptainMyCaptain · 02/05/2025 20:56

But there was a pathetic turnout - only 36.2% in my area. Reform got all their supporters out to vote and the people who couldn't be bothered bear a lot of the blame. I believe voting should be compulsory.

Edited

If those who'd vote for other parties are too lazy to do so, they are probably too lazy to work, too lazy to look after their kids properly and definitely too lazy to care what happens to their country. Therefore, I'm glad they didn't bother.

EasternStandard · 02/05/2025 22:13

RufustheFactuaIReindeer · 02/05/2025 21:57

So no, he wasn’t smug or flippant

Bloat is bad, or are you ok with that?

You’d sound like a medical problem to be got rid of.

Plmnki · 02/05/2025 22:14

I don’t understand why people are surprised that he is destructive, vile and deeply unpleasant. Surely this was obvious 15 yrs ago?

Mrsdyna · 02/05/2025 22:22

He's letting his voters know that he is serious. He's basically reaffirming that they will do what is expected of them.

Agrumpyknitter · 02/05/2025 22:35

Can’t stand the man. Don’t know why some people think a public educated former banker serves the average or working person’s interest, he serves his own interest foremost. He has earned almost £600’000 since the election and spends more time earning non MP income, than he does working for his constituents. He votes against policies that would protect workers rights. Women benefit hugely from DEI it is important and matters.

Happyher · 02/05/2025 22:39

Time for them to put their money where their mouth is. There’s little evidence of them running anything. It’s very easy to shout from the sidelines about what’s wrong but not so easy to manage an ever decreasing budget a deliver the services that people expect

Katemax82 · 02/05/2025 22:46

HoskinsChoice · 02/05/2025 21:19

Sadly with the brexit vote, the covid antivaxxers and now today's vote, it has become clear just how stupid the public is. He is playing to the stupid and they're lapping it up. Today is a very dark day for British politics. Racism is seeping into the stupid's psyche and because the stupid outnumber the less stupid, they are winning. It's happening all over Europe. It's embarrassing that we allow Farage anywhere near our country's leadership and genuinely scary where this will end.

Covid antivaxxers aren't stupid, we just don't want the covid jab

User46576 · 02/05/2025 22:47

MugsyBalonz · 02/05/2025 21:19

Which parts of diversity, equality, and inclusion do you think should be cut? Who should it be legal to discriminate against?

Tbf I recently worked in the public sector. We had an equalities team made up of 11 people. None of them could even correctly name the protected characteristics in the equality act. These are not people who are protecting people from discrimination. They aren’t doing anything useful

AlviarinAesSedai · 02/05/2025 22:49

MugsyBalonz · 02/05/2025 21:10

I said similar earlier today.

I feel bad for the people living in the area but I sincerely hope that Reform run that council into the ground, that they bankrupt it, massively fuck up services, mismanage the whole lot, and basically preside over such a cluster fuck that they will forever be synonymous with the term. That way, people might think twice about voting for them at the next GE.

I don’t want my council to go bankrupt! It’s not my fault.
I do want them to fail, the turnout in my area was 33% and they didn’t even get 50% of the total vote, so less than max 15% voted for them.