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Disgusted by school’s response to complaint about pervy teacher - Final Update

688 replies

SophEll · 02/05/2025 13:08

Well, well, well. I’ve had a very lengthy and interesting phone call from the Headteacher (HT) handling my complaint.

I now consider the matter resolved, I’m sure you are wondering what was said and I’ve done my best to summarise below:

-My initial complaint WAS wrongly dismissed without investigation - as the comments made related to a school interaction.

-The HT has offered me an unreserved apology on behalf of the school for the handling of my initial complaint which I have gratefully accepted, as long as it’s also offered in writing (which I’m assured it will be).

-I’m told the Chair was most unimpressed to learn of my experience when complaining and an urgent review of their complaints procedure has been ordered. The HT tells me that they’ll ensure appropriate oversight is put in place moving forward and was extremely grateful for me bringing this to their attention.

-As previously noted, they cannot share the outcome of the investigation into my concerns about the interaction I had, which is perfectly understandable. Yes, I know he’ll get a slap on the wrist at best and should be suitably embarrassed, but that should be sufficient to prevent someone else going through what I did.

The term ‘tail between legs’ comes to mind for certain posters on here - I await your apologies with bated breath!

Thanks for those who’ve offered constructive suggestions on how to proceed, this outcome is a victory for anyone who has ever had a complaint wrongly dismissed.

I’ve also thanked my DH, whilst initially sceptical his support in emailing the Chair made all the difference. I have the utmost respect for how the Chair and HT handled this so promptly.

I feel as though I can now put the whole sorry saga behind me and move forward (I’ll probably give that bar a miss in the future mind you!)

I’ve told DH to put the champagne on ice!

OP posts:
SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:33

I'm starting to think you're jumping the shark now and this is all made up. MN seem to think you're a genuine poster, but I honestly don't believe anyone in real life could be so smug and self-congratulatory about potential fucking up someone's career. If this isn't one long wind-up, I fear for your husband and DC. One step out of line and you'll take a hit out on the poor sods.

WigglywagglyWanda · 02/05/2025 14:33

CanYouTurnItDown · 02/05/2025 14:28

Who will play the teacher?

Please can it be Tom Hardy?

I'd be bending over the desk before he said parents evening

JasperTheDoll · 02/05/2025 14:35

WigglywagglyWanda · 02/05/2025 14:33

Please can it be Tom Hardy?

I'd be bending over the desk before he said parents evening

Tom Hardy having graphic fantasies about me would be the dream.

WigglywagglyWanda · 02/05/2025 14:36

JasperTheDoll · 02/05/2025 14:32

I'm starting to wonder now if this was actually the other way around and she tried to chat the teacher up, was rejected and is now a woman scorned. Stranger things have happened.

Ooooooooo

Interesting

So a bit like Baby Reindeer?

5128gap · 02/05/2025 14:38

cardibach · 02/05/2025 14:11

Nobody is saying it’s acceptable or that they would behave like him. And they aren’t saying the nightclub incident was funny.
They are saying the OP’s approach is funny and the school will be thinking the same.

Depending on what the guy was like in general (he may well gave form for being a creep, because generally nice respectful guys don't tend to use a comment like that as their go to chat up line, do they?) they may well be glad to see him get a slap on the wrist. If only because it may stop him repeating it and really harming his career. I certainly can't imagine the decent responsible teachers I know convulsed with mirth at the idea a woman would complain about this.

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:39

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:09

People have NOT being saying what he said was acceptable. The overwhelming consensus has been that it wasn't. But the vast majority also don't think he deserves to be dragged through an internal investigation and potentially lose his job for an incident that happened between two adults in his private life. But having just messaged my teacher OH for his take on OP's update, he's just replied that the head's clearly told her what she wanted to hear and nothing else will happen to the teacher. OH is also willing to bet a case of champagne that OP was THAT parent while her kids were at the school and that she was on the secret list all schools have of parents who are an absolute fucking nightmare to deal with!

On the private life thing I guess we aren't going to agree. This is a person he knows only through his work, and only while working, and his sexualised comment was directly about their professional interaction at his workplace.

This isn't a complaint that she met a random guy in a bar and he said something sleazy, and he turned out to be a teacher. Then I'd agree with you.

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:41

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:39

On the private life thing I guess we aren't going to agree. This is a person he knows only through his work, and only while working, and his sexualised comment was directly about their professional interaction at his workplace.

This isn't a complaint that she met a random guy in a bar and he said something sleazy, and he turned out to be a teacher. Then I'd agree with you.

But she's not a work contact. Her kids don't go to the school and haven't attended for years by the sounds of things. She's a former parent and has no involvement in his workplace.

Tryingtokeepgoing · 02/05/2025 14:41

I’m not sure that this update shows the OP in the light she thinks it does 😂

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:41

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:33

I'm starting to think you're jumping the shark now and this is all made up. MN seem to think you're a genuine poster, but I honestly don't believe anyone in real life could be so smug and self-congratulatory about potential fucking up someone's career. If this isn't one long wind-up, I fear for your husband and DC. One step out of line and you'll take a hit out on the poor sods.

You need to pick one: either this is a nothing, or this is potentially career-ending.

I agree OP's tone on MN hasn't been particularly endearing, but I don't think she owes that either to him or to the crowd.

dairydebris · 02/05/2025 14:42

I'm 99% sure we are being trolled and 100% sure the OP has thoroughly enjoyed the attention.

PeachBlossom1234 · 02/05/2025 14:42

SophEll · 02/05/2025 13:16

For anyone unsure on the voting:

YABU - the school should have responded more strongly.

YANBU - it’s a reasonable outcome.

I voted YABU because you're being unreasonable.....

Justmovehousethen · 02/05/2025 14:45

dairydebris · 02/05/2025 14:42

I'm 99% sure we are being trolled and 100% sure the OP has thoroughly enjoyed the attention.

I agree after the way this thread was written and subsequent updates.

Or I think this thread is completely made up to try and claim that she was right and end the discussion.

WigglywagglyWanda · 02/05/2025 14:46

JasperTheDoll · 02/05/2025 14:35

Tom Hardy having graphic fantasies about me would be the dream.

Actually this has taken me down memory lane.

A squillion years ago my husband interviewed me for a job, which I got,worked with him for a while, then moved on..

Years later we met up got married had four kids and now grandchildren. Some time into the relationship he shared some information on what he was thinking at the interview😃

Now this is very very different, but I think two women two men in a club having a conversation. Guy is pished. Guy fancies woman and blurts out the stupidest comment ever, sleezy and dicky....immediately says to himself oh fuck. Friend says excuse me.....Guy says 'joking obviously' and scuttles into the night .

Op is twattering on about what she went through when a lot if us actually sit and listen to her shite having ACTUALLY been victims.

Load of bollix abd I'm glad she got the nice fuck off response

SophEll · 02/05/2025 14:46

SophEll · 02/05/2025 13:16

For anyone unsure on the voting:

YABU - the school should have responded more strongly.

YANBU - it’s a reasonable outcome.

As it stands, c.80% think the school should have been even mpre robust in there response which is interesting. It’s certainly some turnaround from some of the views previously!

OP posts:
SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:46

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:41

You need to pick one: either this is a nothing, or this is potentially career-ending.

I agree OP's tone on MN hasn't been particularly endearing, but I don't think she owes that either to him or to the crowd.

I don't need to pick, thanks. It has the potential to be both. If the school does take her complaint about his comment – which was her original complaint after all – seriously, he'll be hauled before a disciplinary hearing. That's general school procedure. Or they could be satisfied the head's "off you fuck" speech has made her go away. My money would be on the latter if I didn't think that OP might not let it go. What if she's not happy with what the head puts in writing? She's clearly of a persistent vindictive nature.

Yeswoman · 02/05/2025 14:47

One thing I don't think I saw in the original replies to this post is that - whilst this occurred outside of the workplace - teachers are (and should be) held to a high standard of behaviour both in and outside of the workplace. They teach our kids. It's a regulated area. As it should be. They shouldn't be behaving inappropriately outside the workplace. Not saying the guy should lose his job, but he needs reminding of that standard of expected behaviour. You can't be sexist creep to parents you've run into at a bar. Surely everyone agrees with this?
well done to the OP for taking him and the school to task.

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:47

SophEll · 02/05/2025 14:46

As it stands, c.80% think the school should have been even mpre robust in there response which is interesting. It’s certainly some turnaround from some of the views previously!

Bollocks – people are voting you are BU regardless of how you skewed the poll to your own advantage!

CalleOcho · 02/05/2025 14:47

SophEll · 02/05/2025 14:29

Roll on 3pm!

Why what you gonna do?

You gonna turn up at said school to confirm that this bloke has been sacked?

Or are you just gonna have a glass of Prosecco “on ice” to “celebrate”?

SophEll · 02/05/2025 14:47

Yeswoman · 02/05/2025 14:47

One thing I don't think I saw in the original replies to this post is that - whilst this occurred outside of the workplace - teachers are (and should be) held to a high standard of behaviour both in and outside of the workplace. They teach our kids. It's a regulated area. As it should be. They shouldn't be behaving inappropriately outside the workplace. Not saying the guy should lose his job, but he needs reminding of that standard of expected behaviour. You can't be sexist creep to parents you've run into at a bar. Surely everyone agrees with this?
well done to the OP for taking him and the school to task.

They’ve all gone very quiet now they have been proven wrong.

Common sense has prevailed in the end.

OP posts:
LMBWSS · 02/05/2025 14:48

DappledThings · 02/05/2025 13:17

Nice try to skew it. 100% of people voting YABU are saying simply that. You are, and have been, unreasonable.

That’s what I voted too, love the hidden options OP to force the answer you want.

You must lead a very sad life OP.

JudgeJ · 02/05/2025 14:48

The term ‘tail between legs’ comes to mind for certain posters on here - I await your apologies with bated breath!

My tail is in exactly the same place, bless your naivety! I would love to have been a fly on the wall when the Head and the Chair of Governors talked, Thomas Becket springs to mind, Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?!

GeorgianaM · 02/05/2025 14:48

If true it's absolutely disgusting of the school to take the word of someone when it was a he said she said matter outside of the school.

GeneralPeter · 02/05/2025 14:49

SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:41

But she's not a work contact. Her kids don't go to the school and haven't attended for years by the sounds of things. She's a former parent and has no involvement in his workplace.

As I say, thats a point we aren't going to agree on. It can't be that professional standards/disrepute only apply in an ongoing relationship, or it would fail to apply to all sorts of scenarios where contact is episodic and perhaps never repeated (policeman, paramedic, conveyancer, could all do this with impunity. Your dentist could once you've moved practice, etc). I think employment codes of all four would catch this sort of scenario, and think that's right too.

ARealitycheck · 02/05/2025 14:49

DappledThings · 02/05/2025 14:31

Ready made cast

I do hope they use the same theme tune for the upcoming drama. In case you didn't know it was... Wonder if said teacher actually used an arab strap.

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Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

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SuperTrooper14 · 02/05/2025 14:49

They’ve all gone very quiet now they have been proven wrong.

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The delusion is real.

We're still all here. Still all eye rolling at you.