Reform winning big

[Keirawr]

Reform had a good night, winning county councils, probably will win a mayoral seat and won the parliamentary by election also.

You don’t have to be a Reform voter to acknowledge that they are taking votes off Labour. Or that they are being electorally effective.

No doubt the ‘basket of deplorables’ crowd will be along in a min with their usual quips calling reform voters names, having learned absolutely 0 from Brexit. Insult the voters at your peril.

These same people also totally miss the point that winning is winning. Feeling all moral and superior about ‘oh well, what will they actually do’ changes nothing.

Perhaps those who label everyone that wants immigration limiting as ‘racist’ Will think again. But likely not.

Please do bookmark. I'm sure your predictable narrative will still be present, even in the face of defeat. Just 5 MPs? Be careful of minimising and underestimating; that never quite works out for you, does it?

@thenoisiesttermagant but the people voting Brexit as a protest vote are likely worse off. So what did it gain them?

Like people voting for Trump who felt marginalised etc, they are even more marginalised and worse off.

Can I just say that it’s a recognised fact that the middle classes are being stuffed - high taxes, no free child care ,no benefits propping them up - there’s a reason so many Brits live in Dubai or have moved to Australia.

So you would happily move to a situation where your child could die , from eating poor quality food if you can’t afford the insurance just so someone will pay you to stay at home ? Who is going to pay precisely ?

"I'm all right Jack, you can pull the ladder up now"

You've called it..Reform are a rich person party catering for well off people like you obvioulsy are.

Snobbery of the highest order....Keep sneering at people you consider beneath you whilst Reform gains more votes.

No they are fascists because they are now entering people's homes with no warrant or warning "to search for immigrants" ... because they are officially selling 2028 merchandise and openly talking about not "giving up" the presidency after this term, despite it being expressly against the constitution... Because when they lost the vote previously they encouraged and enabled a storming of the capital to try and over turn the democratic vote when it didn't go their way.

This is the sort of party Reform/Farage are chomping at the big to align with.

That should be a cause for concern.

If you was to go on the reform Facebook page you will get a feeling of how educated their supporters are. You can have money and still be thick as two planks.

I think the turnout was probably a lot lower than 80% but I haven't checked it. But not voting at all is stupid. A better way of voicing your opinion is voting for an independent/someone else/spoiling your ballot/running yourself/engaging in anarchy... that all shows engagement. Sitting on your arse at home not voting doesn't show anything, apart from not being arsed...

The country is breaking, and reform will continue to break through as enough people are naïve enough to think that these grifters will make a difference, when they will merely accelerate the pace of decline. It will be Brexit 2.0, but far worse, because what the country needs now are intelligent, articulate technocrats who can try to fix it, not gobshites who campaign in soundbites. Ah well, we had a good run. I sadly think this is baked in now and things wil get a whole lot worse. My only hope is Reform implodes when they have some of the reigns of power locally and the electorate see them as they really are.

PP is describing what she’s seeing. What would be the acceptable manner to do that?
We have a very similar situation in our local town, so I know what she’s talking about.
I’m an immigrant myself, but I think if there are some obvious issues they need to addressed rather than swept under the carpet.

You don’t know yourself. Scaremongering is so last year.

You're calling people thick whilst exercising poor grammar "if you was...". "If you were.." sits nicely. 😜

This is interesting. I will go and read the Reform policies.

I was a SAHM for many years too and I agree the main parties do not accept this life choice as valid nor support it in any way.

Funnily enough it's all about 'happy mum, happy baby' when women want to return to work (which obviously I do support) but if it would make Mum happy to stay home with her kids this isn't supported. At all.

Edited to add: or indeed Dad. I am sure there are some Dads who would prefer to stay at home. Also not supported.

I do think many people don’t understands stats and numbers - a million , near enough, people came to Britain in 2023. A million to a country with a population of 65 million -that. Is horrendous. All this children in poverty in temporary accommodation
and people are happy to see a million more people come in.
Im thankful we have Reform cos no one else cares.

Well that depends on your definition of being well off - both teachers, so I left a £40K a year job to be a SAHM, DH earns £45K a year. Most of our friends earn £70-200K a year.

I actually know loads of SAHPs on benefits who live in social housing who also vote Reform on this policy, they earn less than us. One friend’s partner is a full time mechanic, she is a SAHM. Why shouldn’t they be able to adjust their tax or child benefit just like others can receive free childcare?

Have a read of the manifestos- no other party even considers that some families WANT to have a parent at home. This should never be an unaffordable option.

Where is this poster saying that Reform voters shouldn't have the right to vote? She is hoping that Reform go the same way as the British Union of Fascists by voters turning against them and their policies.

Dangermoo · Today 10:44

KimberleyClark · Today 10:25
Farage is an admirer of Trump. And Trump is a Fascist.
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"Why are they fascists, because they are hugely patriotic?"

No they are hugely nationalist.

With the NHS and how we deliver health treatments it is not, repeat NOT binary. The US experience is not the only alternative to our system. To say it is is just scaremongering. See Germany or Denmark they are all different.
In Australia there is a model that is similar to ours but they have a different attitude to 'going private'. Those who can afford to pay insurance are expected to go private and take the pressure off the main system.
In Australia (I am informed) the insurance method is under close control and the premiums are more affordable.
I am not Australian so open to correction.

You clearly don't understand what fascism means. It's a common problem with the left wing.

Interesting that as I type OPs poll is 49UR v 51R.

Reminiscent of that apparent landslide Brexit majority.

What exactly are Labour offering these "hard working people" they pontificate about? Putting up their taxes, taking winter fuel allowance off pensioners and threatening to evict tenants in private accommodation so illegals can be housed at taxpayer expense, while rewarding themselves with designer clothes and free concert tickets. And refusing a national inquiry into the Grooming Gangs to cover up the collusion of Labour Councils. Not surprised there's been a backlash.

They are literally the Nazi party in disguise! You've only got to read what Farage has said just this week about autism and autistic people to know that! Fun fact Hitler didn't go after the Jews first, he went after mentality disabled people, then physically disabled people to test what he could get away with!

All you ever get on threads like this OP are the left leaning liberals who will simply name call anyone who doesn’t vote Labour as racists, bigots, xenophobes, idiots, ableist etc etc and the list goes on. They cannot get their tiny minds around the fact that people have had enough of the Lab/Con government swapping and want to send a message that we have had enough. Their governments are not working for them. A vote for Reform, in areas such as mine in South Yorkshire is as much a big ‘fuck you’ to Keir and Kemi as it is a green light to Nigel.

They can bury their heads in the sand all they like and call perfectly reasonable and intelligent people ‘right wing’ as many times as they like but the results today speak for themselves.

I am dyslexic so thanks for shaming me. Shows who you are as a person. I don't believe in what reform stands for I want to live in a multicultural society and experience all different cultures.