Why are Kneecap not in prison?

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But Lucy Connelly is? Kneecap told people to kill their MPs. Why have they not been arrested.

(To be very clear, I do not condone violence of any kind towards anyone, I'm just asking as this seems like a double standard, can someone explain?)

Precisely.
Its big guys go in with big plans and big ideas and steal land from and oppress the smaller guys.
Smaller guys do not have the resources to create a ‘proper’ army to fight a ‘proper’ war so they retaliate the only way they can. By committing awful atrocities against the other side. Neither side is in the right. Civilians die on both sides.
A semblance of peace in NI only came about when they started talking instead of fighting.

Exacltly The rich grow richer and it's the poor who suffer most

'Make no mistake I am not glorifying any of the above but it is inportant'

It's funny how some of you have to keep putting that you don't support or glorify any of the comments that you've just actually posted. I can see why kneecap have such fervent supporters..

We have to keep saying it over and over again because we keep being accused of being terrorist supporters by people who don’t understand nuance

It’s funny how you have no problem with the Israeli government continuing to break International law, commit war crimes and continue the ethnic cleansing so they can build more waterfront properties. Yet here we are.

Because I’m surprised they can’t see that Hamas are the violent face of oppressors - ie radical
Islam. And are not fighting for Palestinians.

it baffles me about the left in general that the Left can’t understand that time moves, dynamics change, and Hamas are the face of a very different beast

It sounds as if you only think people born in Ireland have a right to comment about a band that calls for the killing of English MPs.

@OpheliaWasntMad
No that’s not what I said at all, and it’s not what I think, to be absolutely clear.

I just didn’t like how you weren’t accepting of some Irish people’s viewpoints, and how you made a point of claiming they weren’t representative of ‘the Irish’.

You didn’t say representative of ‘all Irish people’ which would be different. There is such a mix anyway.

It just sounded like you were trying to take away peoples voices - declaring that they were not authentic - just because what they were saying didn’t align with your own family’s view, or what you consider (from elsewhere I think?) to be really Irish.

Oh dear. You’ve made a lot of incorrect assumptions.

I-was replying to a pp who said “I'm not sure why the Irish aren't distancing themselves from these imbeciles.”

and I replied “To be fair - the posters on here are not representative of “the Irish”. Irish people I know wouldn’t defend any of this in any way - and some of my family members were victims of the Troubles .”

( I’ve add the quote marks to “the Irish” as they should have been there for clarity. )

It’s pretty ironic that you’re accusing me of “trying to take away peoples voices - declaring that they were not authentic “ when you’ve told me my view doesn’t matter because I’m not authentically Irish enough. 😆
Anyway - I really don’t care what you think because you seem pretty unreasonable to me . Jog on

No, you misunderstand me again.

I do think your view matters.
The only exeception I would make is when you judge people’s opinions as not being ‘typically Irish’ enough.

I do think you need to live in a place to be able to do that (and even then you’re really only seeing a subset of society).
Who do you, or pp for that matter, think ‘the Irish’ are? Why do you think Irish voices on this thread can’t be representative?

Anyway, this is a bit pointless, but just wanted to clarify as you seem to be judging me for thinking things I don’t actually think.

“Bleating about Kneecap” 🙄
This is a thread about Kneecap . You’re derailing it.

If Kneecap truly care about Palestinians they should not support Hamas or Hezbollah who have brought such misery to Gaza.( They should focus on criticism of the Israeli government/ settlers aggression and Hamas )

If they care about peace in NI they should not promote the symbols and motifs of the IRA as a way of seeming edgy and getting publicity. The legacy of terror is still felt in NI and it’s not OK to flaunt symbols of terror.
thegroundtruthproject.org/there-is-still-fear-for-the-five-mccartney-sisters-of-belfast-the-troubles-never-ended/

I believe that the sentiment they expected over 2 years ago when nobody gave a shit about them; I just saw their documentary last year and it was brilliant, these guys have real bars and talent and I’m a bit cross that the Eden project venue gig got cancelled these guys can work a crowd…, would have have been a great night as it’s about time music got really got anarchy in it not all those mellow shit that swamps us right now. Not saying I agree with it but I love their energy. It’s about time establishment was called out, they really haven’t hurt anyone; where is the problem? Ffs it’s better than ed Sheeran and all that other bollocks.
If you actually listen they are very talented

Maybe look up what the UK did to us here in Ireland and then see what you think about the situation.

1916. Stealing our 6 counties. Murders. The lot.

Music is all political don't be so ignorant

Bleating about Kneecap, yes.

Where people choose to focus their outrage is very telling.

Stupid comment Greyhound
People can express concern over more than one thing .
And this thread is about Kneecap.
If you don’t want to talk about the subject of the thread stay off this thread and create a thread of your own .

What the UK did to Ireland does not justify expressions of support for Hamas and Hezbollah and calls to kill MPs.
We’ve been over all this 🙄

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/what-kneecap-wont-tell-you-about-growing-up-in-belfast/
“Kneecap had a unique opportunity, through their edgy subversion of Irish culture and popularising a once-dying Irish language amongst their fans, to connect with future generations. Unfortunately, they got caught up in their own hype. They, like me, only had a relatively mild taste of the extreme violence of the Troubles. But also, like me, they are beneficiaries of peace. That peace only came about through reasoned, hard debate between serious people. I suggest Kneecap’s members go back and speak to their parents about the Troubles for a dose of much-needed reality.”

@Thegreyhound
You said “ bleating about Kneecap . Where people choose to focus their outrage is very telling “ in response to my comment and link below…

“If they care about peace in NI they should not promote the symbols and motifs of the IRA as a way of seeming edgy and getting publicity. The legacy of terror is still felt in NI and it’s not OK to flaunt symbols of terror.
thegroundtruthproject.org/there-is-still-fear-for-the-five-mccartney-sisters-of-belfast-the-troubles-never-ended/

I take it you don’t feel outraged by the murder and brutality Kneecap glorify?

I can’t read that link without registering which I’ve no intention of doing but do know the Spectator is part of UK right wing media so don’t expect them to print anything particularly balanced.

'It’s about time establishment was called out, they really haven’t hurt anyone; where is the problem? Ffs it’s better than ed Sheeran and all that other bollocks'

Ah yes Ed sheeran and other bollocks singing songs about boring things like love and bollocks, if only he wore a balaclava and told his audience to kill folk he'd be soooo much more edgy!

For the trillionth time establishments can be called out it's the 'up hamas' and 'kill your MP' that is the problem. They may not have hurt anyone but any of their excitable followers could, that is how incitement works you see.

A more balanced view
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/01/kneecap-band-furore-hypocrisy-cancel-culture-free-speech

We do not have unlimited freedom of speech in this country. Hate speech is illegal.

Oh yes, very balanced.

'The British press combed through old videos and found clips'

As if the British press are unreasonable snoops. Wasn't one of these clips from Nov 24?

'Kneecap’s 2023 remarks are hard to defend on their merits' ya don't say Dorian, that's really profound journalism.

Like a pp he mentioned the Sex Pistols, but I don't recall them supporting terrorism. Sarcastically singing God Save the Queen isn't comparable to 'kill your MP'. Is it?

Fair enough. I have quoted from the article anyway.
It’s never a good idea to only read stuff which only reflects your own views. Sometimes it’s good to read stuff from another perspective.

I agree with some of this.
It’s hardly “more balanced” though…

Agree with @Gloriia on this

Well clearly if people cherry pick quotes from a balanced article that actually sets out to address both view points in a balanced manner and decline to apply critical thinking to a debate then the discussion is pointless and anger escalates. . Father Ted co
ed to mind, “down with that sort of thing”.