Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - you have blood on your hands

[Muffinmam]

Am I being unreasonable to say that Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor - the Duke of York and member of the Royal Family has blood on his hands following the tragic suicide of Virginia Giuffre?

Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has faced zero consequences for his role in Virginia Giuffre‘s sexual abuse and trafficking because he’s rich and his powerful mummy paid off the victim and the British police failed to pursue charges against him. To be clear, while the age of consent in the UK is 17 years old this does not apply to trafficking victims and Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor has never faced criminal charges.

He probably thinks he’s got away with it now she’s gone.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14649791/Virginia-Giuffre-suicide-perth-mansion.html

A 41 year old having sex with a 17 year old is a bad nonce in anyone’s book. I see the bootlickers are out in force.

The Queen was head of the Church of England when she paid off Andrew’s accuser.
The Windsors are paid half a billion a year from the country’s dwindling coffers and the royal family are held up as the pinnacle of our society. The population is literally handed over to the king / queen during their anointed by god coronation

The Windsors should be setting an example especially when caught embroiled in sex abuse .
Andrew should have been willing or made to cooperate with the authorities ( he swore he would on the bbc then ran and hid behind his mother’s skirts)

The royalists quibbling over the age of victims do themselves and the Windsors a disservice

Is there a time limit on trauma due to being sex trafficked?

She was going through a bitter divorce after 22 years together, she had what we would call a restraining order out against her, she seems to have limited contact with her children, having some kind of mental health crisis played out on social media with weird posts on Instagram and the contested facts about her car crash and severity of injuries. This shows that after the criminal conspiracy and abuse that she was subjected to the trauma just doesn't go away. She was vindicated, the world believed her and she received enough money to make choices for a materially secure future with her own family. Yet still the trauma was too much for her, even with the passage of a quatre of a century.
Imagine what it's like for all those abused girls and women who are never believed or their feelings never validated or never have any financial support to help them yet have to deal with similar trauma.

Is there an age of consent for being sexually abused and trafficked?

No they aren't the tiny minority, as your aibu shows.

The only evidence I have seen so far is a picture of Andrew posing for a photo with his arm around a 17yo. Ill advised certainly, but not evidence of a crime. And in my world people are innocent until proven guilty.

I can well believe Andrew to be arrogant, entitled, not very bright, a poor judge of character, too easily flattered but I do not believe he would have sex with anyone without consent. No-one in his position, with years of being in the public eye, and of the gutter press, would be that stupid.

That VG felt unable to carry on living is tragic and I feel desperately sad for her family, especially her children. They should be left to grieve in peace, not have this splurged all over social media again. Where is your respect for her OP? For their feelings?

But Andrew is so thick and so thick-skinned that none of this will even put a dent in his his self-esteem and his ridiculously high opinion of himself. He is like a caricature of an entitled aristocrat from bygone eras with the 'divine right of kings'.

His interview with Emily Maitliss, which he was actually pleased with until it was aired and he saw the public reaction, is testament to his complete lack of self-awareness. He is utterly shameless.

You're essentially glorifying in the death of a woman in order to put the boot into the royal family. That's pretty sick.

This woman was a victim of abuse way, way before she ever met Epstein. She had a horrific childhood which involved abuse, living on the streets and being passed from foster home to foster home. When Epstein and Maxwell got hold of her, she was lured into prostitution and potentially slept with hundreds of men for money and a high end lifestyle of luxury houses, international travel and private jets.

There is zero evidence that she slept with Andrew and of course there is zero evidence that she didn't. We will never know. What we do know is that Andrew was not even close to being the leader or instigator of anything that happened in her childhood or young adult life. He was possibly a very, very tiny cog in an enormous wheel.

Please don't use this woman's tragic life to push your anti-royal views. It's disgusting to use this to suit your agenda. 'That ginger woman' tells us everything we need to know about you. Go and do something nice and get over your prejudices and discrimination.

I feel for her massively and he has absolutely contributed.

But she’d just lost custody of her children and broken a family restraining order. I suspect that her mental state will have been more directly associated with that, than the abuse, directly. Of course the trauma probably stayed with her throughout her life.

his home

Prince Andrew is homeless?

Living on the streets or in a homeless shelter?

Who knew.

When it comes to leaping to conclusions OP, you should be in the Olympics!

I think the whole world has blood on their hands. Do we actually know how much duty of care tabloid and mainstream media show towards their daily fodder? The people whose victimhood is sold and broadcast daily? Do we know what happens to them afterwards? Not to in anyway exonerate the Royal pervert, but isn’t that a form of assault too?

He hasn't been charged with an offence because he paid £12 million for her silence. Obviously, that's just what an innocent man would do.

No criminal case was brought against him because there was no evidence to convict him upon.

Anyone can bring a civil case - and, I am sure in that example they probably paid her to stop the continuous bad publicity.

Sorry this is written like she almost had a choice in being trafficked for a high end luxury lifestyle? Lured into prostitution? No she was abused and coerced into sexual abuse and rape.

@Meadowfinch

This poll has a few hundred responses - it proves exactly nothing

I don’t know who you mix with but the only time I’ve seen the Andrew defence trotted out is on a certain subsection of mumsnet

It's not just him though, is it?
Are you going to name and shame everyone who abused her.
And remember, he was not found guilty in a court of law. He settled out of court, which legally, is not an admission of guilt.
I'm no fan of Andrew, but to say he has blood on his hands is libelous

in prison?

He was never tried in court or convicted and she’s been proven to be a liar.

I despise Andrew and am not very keen on any of the royal family, but either you’re a conspiracy theorist or you’re just trying to stir people up.

Every word of this. Poor woman had a terrible life and he was only a tiny part of it whatever happened between them.

He may have blood on his hands but what about her parents who completely failed in parenting and protecting her. And her husband who refused her access to her children although I’m sure will be happy to claim her money. There is more to this story than meets the eye.

It has a specific spelling unless you are american

I think the whole world has blood on their hands. Do we actually know how much duty of care tabloid and mainstream media show towards their daily fodder? The people whose victimhood is sold and broadcast daily?

I agree with this

where is Ghislaine Maxwell