To think just don’t offer them beige food?

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Or am I spectacularly uneducated here? My sister has a 3 year old who apparently will only eat beige food and mostly crisps. She says it’s a sensory thing and we have to respect it when around him, for example when I took him and dd out last week I had to give him quavers rather than the snacks I had got for dd… which then made dd want quavers too! Same with water, he won’t drink it and it has to be juice.

I am not massively strict but did say to dsis just don’t buy these things then he won’t know he can ask for them… she says he just won’t eat or drink. I think this is ridiculous (I’ve not said this to her). AIBU?!?

“Still do the therapy if you just”?! Wtf is wrong is with you?!

I was thinking but darent have said this. All I keep thinking about is children in Gaza 😢

Because that may not be what the doctor or dietician advises. As others who actually have first-hand experience of this have tried to explain until they are blue in the face, it’s not always as straightforward as just introducing other foods and hoping for the best.

It’s usually beige because evolutionarily they were safe. Coloured foods are more likely to be poisonous. They’re also more dense from a calorie perspective so we don’t need to eat as much to function. And, they’re consistent.

That said we’ve definitely had kids at group therapy whose restricted foods include crunchy hard vegetables.

Do you walk into cancer clinics and say things like that? Or just parents supporting kids with severe eating disorders?

I guarantee every single horrible thing that’s happened to you in your life wasn’t met with someone devoid of empathy reminding you there’s someone else out there with bigger issues.

I can't imagine eating disorders being unique to the UK!!

It is a risk yes. Which is why it makes no sense to take it with her meal replacement shakes. Particularly when the best case scenario is she drinks her meal replacement shakes and the weird thing you’ve designed that she doesn’t actually need at all.

Do you always think you know better than trained professionals or just on this? Do you have any actual qualifications or you just giving horrible advice for fun?

That poster was replying to my comment. Regarding Arfid being an issue for countries where food is not in short supply.

Bit different?

and of course not, but I do always try to have perspective if I’m honest.

anyway, we are allowed to think what we wish.

As I said previously, it’s obvious we would
do things differently and I do hope it works out for you.

How do you know it isn’t? And you understand the reasons why it isn’t?

They aren’t. But the risk factor and pathology is different. But they still very much exist.

You’re entitled to your opinion. As I said, best of luck.

It’s not an opinion. It’s an actual fact. And it’s noted than when you’re faced with questions you can’t answer you back off.

It’s also noted you can’t seperate fact from opinion, or logic from emotion. But also, I don’t actually care. You do you since it’s clearly working so well 👍🏾

I was born in a communist country going through rationing . I still didn’t eat and was fussy. Not quite war torn , but not exactly an abundance of food of any kind.

But you did survive thankfully and im guessing you wouldn’t have access to these services?

You really are hard of hearing/sight aren't you? Beige foods are not just UPFs. I posted a link way back from Cambridge university hospitals defining beige food as dry carbohydrates like pasta, bread etc. why are you ignoring that? Presumably because if you had to accept beige doesnt automatically = upf you wouldn't be able to feel so smug?

OK here are the facts.

Children need a specified number of calories per day to live.
Children need a specified amount of nutrients to survive and develop.

If those needs are not met then there is a risk of failure to thrive.

The above are facts.

Another fact, prescribed meal replacement shakes are evidenced suitable supplements for children who are not able to meet their nutritional needs. They are the gold standard. This is fact.

Now, onto opinion. Not my opinion. The opinion of professionals who are qualified to have one. An opinion backed up by research.

For children or adults with an eating disorder where their nutritional needs are not being met the priority is getting those needs met. Do you agree or disagree with that?

Assuming you do agree (I would love to know why you don’t if you don’t) I assume your shake means you don’t agree with the gold standard evidenced shakes? So you would refuse them? What? Or give them and then ignore the advice from the professionals that you leave the shake part of the diet alone because it’s important to ensure that it remains consistent and reliable.

Separately from the above is creating an environment where food is safe and not threatening. You seem to be disagreeing without this is achieved but also haven’t said a single thing that suggests you know anything about it or how it works. Do you have an opinion based on knowledge or an opinion based on a starting point of I judge everyone.

if you had bothered to read through my previous posts you would have seen I said I offer things like breadsticks, pasta, rice… I understand kids can tolerate these better and that’s no issue. My issue was when you replace these or begin to offer UPF’s which due to the chemical additives which are addictive they become the preferred food and this is a slippery slope. Please read through and understand that was always my stance.

That's uncalled for. You are harassing a poster who is going through massive challenges trying to keep her daughter nourished.

I hope it makes you feel good, but it's not coming across well!

Yes, because there is not a high amount of junk food kicking around. A child will have a higher preference for junk food. Tastes better. Does the job quickly. Children from the Congo for example have no such preferences and do not know when their next meal is coming from and have the need to survive. I can guarantee they won’t be refusing food packages which don’t include quavers.

The same poster who said I would kill
my child? Unhinged.

Yes I did indeed. Docs said “it’s in the hands of God” when I was a baby. I mean they did try things, but whether it would work or not or if I’d get better or not, they didn’t know.

Thank fuck for bread and potatoes after that stage.

Might just eat the rice though eh.