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To be disappointed they've changed their mind about the money?

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hoopoemagic · 25/04/2025 11:48

Feeling a bit sorry for myself. My parents had offered to gift me a deposit for a little house for me and DS following a break up but, as I could only afford one in one of the less desirable areas, they've now changed their mind.

Totally within their rights and I've just reassured them it's totally fine but currently feeling very disappointed. I'm on my mid forties and have been left with nothing after my break up so no chance of buying now. Not the end of the world, but feeling very sad to have lost the opportunity.

OP posts:
TorroFerney · 26/04/2025 14:17

hoopoemagic · 25/04/2025 22:00

I did not get my bottle of wine and early night. Mum rang (maybe she's on Mumsnet?) to invite me out to lunch.
She then worried at me that I was upset and explained she felt guilty. I did feel terrible - they've helped me out loads and I absolutely did not expect this gift. They offered, I was delighted and really excited. It appears I massively misunderstood as the main reason they've pulled out is that they "are worried what they are getting themselves into". They really did talk about "giving" me a deposit, using that word, but they meant buying a house together with their capital and me getting a mortgage so have been panicking about the maintenance on two houses.

Obviously this is a complete non-starter, but I'm completely astounded. How did I misunderstand this so badly?! If I'm honest, selfishly, I'm really hurt. I already feel like a complete and utter failure and what I thought was a lifeline actually just demonstrated that my lovely, lovely parents who have only ever been there for me and have total faith in me think the same.

I'm off for a bath and early night.

Well they should have thought more about it before they made the offer shouldn't they, and made it crystal clear what the offer was which I would suggest they have not but you are so mired in the " I am a complete fuck up" narrative that you naturally assume it's you. Have a wallow though op for a little bit as it's a rubbish situation x.

hoopoemagic · 26/04/2025 15:11

Slightyamusedandsilly · 26/04/2025 13:04

I think the problem is probably, as you've said yourself, in the past you've been too trusting and as a result made bad decisions. They see the bad decisions and as a result, doubt your judgement.

I have a lovely friend who is similar. She's very very sweet, but she's made some spectacularly bad decisions in the past which have totally derailed and damaged her life. And she's in the middle of making 2 more bad decisions.

In the past, I didn't say anything to her, because I didn't feel it was my place. But this time I have, and she's dismissed my points, despite my clearly having made and continuing to make better choices. Of course, it's her life and it is totally up to her, to make those choices for her life. But I wouldn't risk my money on her.

Would it be possible to let things die down a bit with your parents. Put some time between the decision and now. And quietly, be seeing a financial advisor? Asking their professional opinion and having them quietly on one side. Then when things are less emotional, asking if your parents would be prepared to listen to the point of view of an expert?

I have a lovely FA that I've used in the past and he's bluntly honest with me. I thought about selling and moving recently, but he laid out the facts and information for me so bluntly and obviously, that I've decided not to. The honesty of an expert might be able to convince your parents in a way you can't.

I think you're right and it's totally fair that they have come to that conclusion. But having doubts about your friend, you wouldn't offer them money would you? That's what is really hurting me right now. I'd started to hope and have little dreams. Feeling secure and being able to always have a second bedroom for DS to come home if he wants when he's grown. A cat. They were only small dreams but now they've been crushed and I am really, really upset. And all this upset could've been avoided if they'd just not bloody suggested it!

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Bigcat25 · 26/04/2025 15:24

Have you explained all this to your parents?

ChoccieCornflake · 26/04/2025 15:30

Massive hugs, I'm so sorry they have put you in this position

hoopoemagic · 26/04/2025 15:32

Bigcat25 · 26/04/2025 15:24

Have you explained all this to your parents?

I've told them to that their decision is fine, I'm not going to try and change their minds, but that I really wish that they'd not offered in the first place. On reflection I do think they've made a huge mistake with how they've handled this but I think they've wanted to fix things and then panicked and feel they've over promised, but they genuinely are loving and supportive and have done a great deal for me over the years so it's not worth falling out over. It is time to rely on myself, I'll get over it all soon but I do feel sad and quite alone.

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thepariscrimefiles · 26/04/2025 15:57

I think you are being overly generous about your parents' good intentions. They did over-promise but they have delivered absolutely nothing except disappointment. You also sound as though your mum is the one that needs comforting as she is so upset. I think it should be the other way round.

The fact that you have a child that they are willing to leave in precarious rented accommodation in a rough area makes me judge them even more.

I speak as someone with adult children and grandchildren with much less money than your parents and I wouldn't hesitate to help my children in your situation.

Bartonzam · 26/04/2025 19:01

So they would rather you were homeless than living in a less than good area? Or one that doesn’t have good resale values ? What is loving about that?

catlover123456789 · 26/04/2025 19:26

If you could only afford a 'less desirable area' with their offer for help with a deposit, what are you going to do now you don't have that help?

croydon15 · 26/04/2025 20:37

It's such a disappointment for you OP but as someone suggested have you looked at part ownership, that could be a possibility. Hope something good turns up for you.

Sharptonguedwoman · 26/04/2025 23:24

LittleBigHead · 25/04/2025 12:38

Oh dear. I think girls should be taught this stuff in schools.

Parents job.

nomas · 26/04/2025 23:33

So I really do feel they think I've fucked up massively losing everything and just don't trust me.

Were you paying towards the mortgage on
your ex-partner’s house? Is that why your parents are saying they don’t trust you?

Or were you renting with him?

cornflakecrunchie · 27/04/2025 00:56

Hugs, @hoopoemagic I feel for you. x

LittleBigHead · 27/04/2025 07:30

Sharptonguedwoman · 26/04/2025 23:24

Parents job.

Fair enough @Sharptonguedwoman . Although in @hoopoemagic 's case, the parents don't seem particularly financially clued up either.

But someone, somewhere, needs to teach girls that there's no selfishness in looking after yourself financially. Maybe MN could run educational awareness campaigns for girls and young women?

LittleBigHead · 27/04/2025 07:36

but they genuinely are loving and supportive and have done a great deal for me over the years so it's not worth falling out over. It is time to rely on myself, I'll get over it all soon but I do feel sad and quite alone.

Flowers You're not alone @hoopoemagic

Sharptonguedwoman · 27/04/2025 07:47

LittleBigHead · 27/04/2025 07:30

Fair enough @Sharptonguedwoman . Although in @hoopoemagic 's case, the parents don't seem particularly financially clued up either.

But someone, somewhere, needs to teach girls that there's no selfishness in looking after yourself financially. Maybe MN could run educational awareness campaigns for girls and young women?

Fair point. It's a very important issue but how you'd include it in a curriculum, I'm not quite sure. PSHE or whatever they call it now maybe. 'Finance for life'? Maybe at 6th form college or a compulsory class on apprenticeships?
One problem is many of our preconceptions about money are inherited from a previous generation and not now always relevant-'housekeeping money' for example.
Some myths are persistent too, like 'common law wives' which simply don't exist in law at all.
Not sure what the answer is.

LadyGillingham · 27/04/2025 07:53

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 25/04/2025 11:54

How could the money be lost if it's invested in a house? If you lost your job you'd just get another one or sell the house! It sounds as though their 'caution' is a little bit overdone.

if someone bought with a 10% deposit on a 200k house and the market falls by 5% in 2 years. they lose a lot of money if they sell in that time!

“Just sell” is not always profitable!

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 27/04/2025 10:08

LadyGillingham · 27/04/2025 07:53

if someone bought with a 10% deposit on a 200k house and the market falls by 5% in 2 years. they lose a lot of money if they sell in that time!

“Just sell” is not always profitable!

But if they've given the money to OP it's surely no longer theirs? It's more like an advance inheritance - they wouldn't ultimately want her to sell up and pay them back, would they? So if the OP had to sell at a loss - it would be HER loss.

OldMam · 27/04/2025 19:45

At my age I’ve seen so many dodgy, ‘stabby’ areas become gentrified and desirable over time. Could you point out to your parents that this makes it a way better investment?

madmeg1952 · 27/04/2025 21:43

DH and I have delivered political leaflets on a huge ex-council estate on the outskirts of Manchester for about 15 years. The area has never been regarded as the best but honestly the people we've met along the route have all been lovely, with hopes for the future, disciplined kids with good manners and so on. Normal, in fact. Yes, lots have problems (including brushes with the law) and some houses are very run down (even smelly or boarded up) but lots more are neat and smart. Tons of the residents have lived there for donkeys years and wouldn't consider anywhere else to live.

House prices there have followed all national trends. I'd happily live there if I wasn't well off enough to live in my 5-bed detached in a country town a few miles away. Maybe I'm more "flexible" than your parents cos I was brought up in a poor but hard-working family with most of my friends living on the council estate very similar in the 1960s to those where I deliver my political leaflets. Maybe your parents have never experienced living in this sort of area. And believe me I understand how those who've never lived in such places can feel so I'm not about to chastise them for that. Your DS probably already mixes with children from such estates and some might be his besties.

So whatever offer your parents made to you, and then withdrew, was misguided, and ill-explained, but there we are. It is not your fault, nor theirs, just a mistake and not grounds for chastising them or feeling anything negative about yourself - just very disappointed. Others on here have suggested ways forward on your own or with their temporary help, so consider those and get some appointments to discuss with mortgage brokers or lenders directly. There are all sorts of mortgages out there nowadays.

I also had ten years of shared ownership on a one-bed flat when I worked a long way from home. It wasn't a great area, on the outskirts of Derby, but it trebled in price in those ten years. The flat next to mine was bought by a young single woman who installed a new kitchen and bathroom at a cost of £20k and promptly sold it for £50k more than she had paid for it!

Point out these two scenarios to your parents and let them think on it for a bit - they might change their minds. Also maybe take them along to talk together with a mortgage adviser about their ideas so both you and they are better informed about possibilities.

Don't give up hope, keep looking, planning, saving. Tell yourself you will get there. You sound like a fantastic daughter and mother.

Meg

Vivienne1000 · 27/04/2025 21:59

Could it be that they find themselves with less money at the moment? Pension pots and investments have taken a hit and the cost of living is up. Are they worried about how they will cope?

Bigcat25 · 27/04/2025 23:12

OldMam · 27/04/2025 19:45

At my age I’ve seen so many dodgy, ‘stabby’ areas become gentrified and desirable over time. Could you point out to your parents that this makes it a way better investment?

Agree, there's more room to the price to go up. No guarantees, but another poster was complaining that her property in a nice area didn't appreciate.

newtoallthisshizzle · 05/05/2025 14:14

Ok so you start now. You are clear that there will be no deposit so you set out a plan of how much you need and how you’ll get that.

All fine being upset and feeling cheated (in a way) but if you really want your own place and a cat you need to set it out on paper and work out how. Without being too woo woo, setting it out as an intention can make it happen, not only the universe/manifesting thing but also because it will be in your brain (a bit like thinking about red cars and seeing loads of them).

Start now with a big piece of paper and write it down. Once you’ve taken that first step you’re taking action and momentum will build. Pull on your big girl pants and make your life happen, even in small steps at first. Good luck! It will happen!

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