To think ugly men are usually vile

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Speaking as a very "mid" woman looks wise. I've given all sorts of men chances over the years, moreso ugly men as in my younger years I assumed they'd be funnier, more accepting, kinder etc.
Never the case. The most rotten foul, misogynist men have been the ugliest!
Married and had DC with a normal (v attractive to me man!) but am seeing it all again now via DDs.
Am I alone?

No I can't say I've ever really found this to be honest.

The most vile, misogynistic men I know are pretty well mixed I think.

All sorts of ages, looks, race etc.

I'm sure in general you are wrong.
But, worse looking people are treated worse, so I suppose some people can degenerate into a self fulfilling prophecy.

So what are ugly women then?

In my experience, usually funny, interesting, kind. The things I expected from "ugly" men

(Ofc there are exceptions)

I’m a granny in my late 60s and vileness in men does not correlate to looks, in my experience.

Interesting.

Are you sure you're not just prejudiced?

Why would you expect a fairly large proportion of society to be 'interesting, funny, kind' just because you deem them ugly?

Sure…

This is probably the nastiest post I’ve read on here this evening.

Did you watch Adolescence? There was a scene where the misogynistic boy admitted to going after a girl when she was “weak” because he thought he’d stand more chance with her then. That sounds like what you were doing with your so-called “ugly” men. That’s warped.

I remember people always used to tell me that “ugly” men were nicer because they had to try harder and “attractive” men were often arseholes because all the women wanted them so women are better off going for “ugly” men.

I think an ugly man started that rumour.

Personally I have never noticed any relationship between a man’s external appearance and his character.

Same. There really is no pattern.

No not "because" at all, it's about experience of.

This. Handsome is as handsome does, as the saying goes.

You said they were the things you expected from 'ugly' men?

You can't judge a book by its cover.

Anyhow, in my experience, some of the best-looking men I've known have been obnoxious entitled swines, so I don't think looks have anything to do with it.

Ohhh yes I get you, when I was younger I foolishly did yes. Wrongly.

Sorry guys it is actually a nasty thread I was just brain farting

What a vile thread.

Not to mention feckin' stupid.

OP seems to imply there's a standard measure of what attractiveness is, and that every woman would agree on what makes a man handsome or ugly.

Dumb as

Because maybe you were giving the vibe that these people should be so grateful that you lowered yourself to give them attention 🤷🏻‍♀️. There’s no correlation as there’s no universal standard of what is ‘ugly’. The vast majority of us are just various shades of ordinary.

I'm 21 and probably not typical of the responders you'll get as I'm basically dating "boys" (they're certainly boys in their mentality anyway).
And I HATE ugly ones.
Ah you're thinking, she's a shallow bimbo. No, I don't only hate them because of their looks, it's because they are SO over-appreciative of me daring to look at them. "Oh Sian, you're so beautiful, why are you talking to me, etc etc...". And they go on and on. Attractive guys don't talk like that.

I had heard this, too, but have been out with 2 or 3 “ugly” men and they’ve been self centred, narcissistic, and opinionated. Awful!

This is definitely more what I was getting at. Certainly not anything of me thinking im in any way a better, far from it tbh!

There was just always an air of mistrust or hatred of women or "I'll fuck you over before you can"

It's definitely a deeper rooted thing and I appreciate the Adolescence reference because I do agree. It's unkindness that create this anger in men but my experience is definitely more like this

You seem to be operating off a bonkers false premise, OP. There’s no correlation, in either sex, positively or negatively, between physical appearance and unpleasantness. Beautiful people are neither predictably ‘vile’ or angels, ditto the ugly.

Yes this too, apart from what l said 🔼 or 🔽. Ugly men are NOT nice people, and I don't care what you think of me for saying that.

So I’ll ask you as well… what about ugly women?

I’ve previously worked in a predominately male field for a lot of years and have spent a lot of time around every brand of man imaginable…..and no.
I really haven’t noticed that correlation.
Of course I’ve met some very unfortunate looking men who also have shit personalities and are awful to be around.
I’d actually say that the most vile, misogynistic, up himself man I’ve ever met might also be the most beautiful human I’ve ever seen. He was tall, chiseled jawline, perfect nose, beautiful eyes, a six-pack that could cut glass, not a hair out of place, extremely well dressed etc…..and he was the cuntiest cunt that ever was 🫠
And yet DH has a friend who definitely fell down the ugly tree and bounced of every branch on the way down…..but he is the sweetest, very personable, wonderful conversationalist, great with kids etc

I really don’t think it correlates.

I can only speak of my own experience. My ex was what would be classed as physically ugly. I wasnt attracted to him in the slightest at first sight. I got with him because despite that, he was lovely. Kind, funny, caring. Well, 12 years and a newborn later, I found out that loveliness was a facade. He was a self centred, cheating, cold, cruel prick. He'd gotten arrogant over the years, discovered a secret love of online dating and thought that having a few people interested in him on that meant that he was some kind of god. He turned out to be as ugly on the inside as he was on the outside.