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To think ugly men are usually vile

118 replies

SordidSplendour · 24/04/2025 23:43

Speaking as a very "mid" woman looks wise. I've given all sorts of men chances over the years, moreso ugly men as in my younger years I assumed they'd be funnier, more accepting, kinder etc.
Never the case. The most rotten foul, misogynist men have been the ugliest!
Married and had DC with a normal (v attractive to me man!) but am seeing it all again now via DDs.
Am I alone?

OP posts:
StrawberryDream24 · 25/04/2025 14:09

Of course I have the right to be pull people up - just as you have the right to pull me up - as you’re currently doing!

On a one to one basis, disagreeing with each other.

I have not maligned an entire forum and "women" on the basis of a few posters.

I have no idea whether you have or not.

Not sure why this even needs clarified to you.

StrawberryDream24 · 25/04/2025 14:12

Cl0udbuster · 25/04/2025 08:41

I think the op is maligning the whole
forum quite well herself with such an unpleasant op. That alongside several other threads highlights a really unpleasant tone to the forum now.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word malign.

HazelKoala · 25/04/2025 14:15

It's all subjective isn't it?

Your ugly won't be my ugly.

NPET · 25/04/2025 14:15

heffalumpwoozle · 25/04/2025 05:40

So you're just saying that people who are ugly on the outside are generally ugly on the inside?

Original.

(and wrong).

Men not people.
I (and you?) am not qualified to determine whether a woman is "ugly" (I'd suggest that she can't be but that's another subject).
But, yes, ime MOST men who are ugly on the outside are also ugly on the inside. MAYBE I'm unfair in some cases, but liking someone (or not) is a very personal thing, and there isn't always an obvious reason for doing so!

WellINeverrr · 25/04/2025 14:16

morningworries · 25/04/2025 00:41

@WellINeverrrIm so sorry! I’m kind of in the same boat. With an ugly man who I thought was kind & caring but who is being really mean and difficult, and undermining. Turns out in his past he’s had loads of female attention! That attention can make these sorts of men really get above themselves. Vile.

Oh absolutely, it's like female attention gives them the confidence/arrogance to go around thinking they're some kind of player, using and discarding women left right and centre.

StrawberryDream24 · 25/04/2025 14:20

HazelKoala · 25/04/2025 14:15

It's all subjective isn't it?

Your ugly won't be my ugly.

There are bench marks for what is generally considered conventionally attractive.

People who conform to those get all sorts of advantages in life .... As cited in studies

If the standards weren't consistent/common, they would not get those advantages.

Even babies have been shown to respond more positively to conventionally attractive people (symmetrical, among other things).

SheridansPortSalut · 25/04/2025 14:23

This can't be real.

NPET · 25/04/2025 14:30

WellINeverrr · 25/04/2025 14:16

Oh absolutely, it's like female attention gives them the confidence/arrogance to go around thinking they're some kind of player, using and discarding women left right and centre.

So true. Men always think they're worthy of our attention but when one of us stoops to their level and actually gives them some attention, there's no stopping them!
That's why it's better - for us and for them - to ignore them from the start. Once I've acknowledged the existence of a boy or man, I can't get rid of them unless I'm rude & actually TELL them to f--- off.

BatchCookBabe · 25/04/2025 16:05

SordidSplendour · 24/04/2025 23:43

Speaking as a very "mid" woman looks wise. I've given all sorts of men chances over the years, moreso ugly men as in my younger years I assumed they'd be funnier, more accepting, kinder etc.
Never the case. The most rotten foul, misogynist men have been the ugliest!
Married and had DC with a normal (v attractive to me man!) but am seeing it all again now via DDs.
Am I alone?

What a vile, nasty, grim thread. Shame on you @SordidSplendour Hmm

Princessconsuelabananahammock9 · 26/04/2025 03:52

NPET · 25/04/2025 14:30

So true. Men always think they're worthy of our attention but when one of us stoops to their level and actually gives them some attention, there's no stopping them!
That's why it's better - for us and for them - to ignore them from the start. Once I've acknowledged the existence of a boy or man, I can't get rid of them unless I'm rude & actually TELL them to f--- off.

This sounds more like you need to work on boundaries than we should all ignore men.

I honestly can’t believe people are agreeing with this thread. It’s so vile.

And someone saying short men in Southern Italy are awful because they are short? Come on!

So races that are typically shorter the men are more sexist? Really? That’s what people believe?!

This is bloody bonkers.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 26/04/2025 04:35

It sounds to me that OP and her DDs either have poor judgement or bring out the worst in people. What a horrible thread.

heffalumpwoozle · 26/04/2025 06:47

NPET · 25/04/2025 14:15

Men not people.
I (and you?) am not qualified to determine whether a woman is "ugly" (I'd suggest that she can't be but that's another subject).
But, yes, ime MOST men who are ugly on the outside are also ugly on the inside. MAYBE I'm unfair in some cases, but liking someone (or not) is a very personal thing, and there isn't always an obvious reason for doing so!

Well you've obviously never watched Shrek.

MixedBananas · 26/04/2025 06:54

My experince matches yours. 100%
My DEXH (d stands for devil). Was very ugly and I was young and naive and stupid. Everyone told me he is punching above his weight and he is the lucky one. I had low self esteem and thought I was nothing special qt all. I remember a complete stranger who had an awful experince with the ex and we were in a shop. I was embarrassed and on the way out this employee said to me I can see your the nice one in this maarriage, do you need help. They meant it in a nice way. And yea I did need help. My ex was abusive physically, mentally and financially.
Whever he went he was vile. It came out when he didn't get his way. He was very calculated and could make friends in high places by laying it on thick. Which is what he did to poor naive me.
Literally the day after we got married and he had me the real him came out. And he went from ugly to hideous.

GardenPart · 26/04/2025 08:52

MixedBananas · 26/04/2025 06:54

My experince matches yours. 100%
My DEXH (d stands for devil). Was very ugly and I was young and naive and stupid. Everyone told me he is punching above his weight and he is the lucky one. I had low self esteem and thought I was nothing special qt all. I remember a complete stranger who had an awful experince with the ex and we were in a shop. I was embarrassed and on the way out this employee said to me I can see your the nice one in this maarriage, do you need help. They meant it in a nice way. And yea I did need help. My ex was abusive physically, mentally and financially.
Whever he went he was vile. It came out when he didn't get his way. He was very calculated and could make friends in high places by laying it on thick. Which is what he did to poor naive me.
Literally the day after we got married and he had me the real him came out. And he went from ugly to hideous.

Edited

This sounds so much like my experience ❤️

KimberleyClark · 26/04/2025 08:53

WellINeverrr · 25/04/2025 14:16

Oh absolutely, it's like female attention gives them the confidence/arrogance to go around thinking they're some kind of player, using and discarding women left right and centre.

And no good looking man ever behaved like that, did they.

Liz1tummypain · 26/04/2025 10:55

And somewhere on another website a guy is asking " am I unreasonable to say that ugly women are usually vile ? "

If that's ok then so is this..

NPET · 26/04/2025 12:14

MixedBananas · 26/04/2025 06:54

My experince matches yours. 100%
My DEXH (d stands for devil). Was very ugly and I was young and naive and stupid. Everyone told me he is punching above his weight and he is the lucky one. I had low self esteem and thought I was nothing special qt all. I remember a complete stranger who had an awful experince with the ex and we were in a shop. I was embarrassed and on the way out this employee said to me I can see your the nice one in this maarriage, do you need help. They meant it in a nice way. And yea I did need help. My ex was abusive physically, mentally and financially.
Whever he went he was vile. It came out when he didn't get his way. He was very calculated and could make friends in high places by laying it on thick. Which is what he did to poor naive me.
Literally the day after we got married and he had me the real him came out. And he went from ugly to hideous.

Edited

Sort of ditto.
(Well with an ex boyf not a H.)
What I mean is the "punching above his weight". I was with him briefly and ALL of my friends & acquaintances couldn't understand it. Of course they decided that the only reason I stayed must be because he had "a big one".
Don't worry I'm not going to divulge that here!
But looking back he wasn't up to my usual standard either visually or as a person.

Oldglasses · 26/04/2025 12:21

They are probably 'ugly' to you because they're unpleasant people, not because of random looks that they can't control.
I'm sure there are some less attractive men that are not nice and some more attractive men that are horrible as well - same in reverse.

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