To think ugly men are usually vile

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Speaking as a very "mid" woman looks wise. I've given all sorts of men chances over the years, moreso ugly men as in my younger years I assumed they'd be funnier, more accepting, kinder etc.
Never the case. The most rotten foul, misogynist men have been the ugliest!
Married and had DC with a normal (v attractive to me man!) but am seeing it all again now via DDs.
Am I alone?

Difficult to pass a comment. I'm not attracted to attractive OR plain women. So I'm not able to say. I have friends who are more attractive than me and ones who would probably be considered less attractive, so it doesn't matter.

@WellINeverrrIm so sorry! I’m kind of in the same boat. With an ugly man who I thought was kind & caring but who is being really mean and difficult, and undermining. Turns out in his past he’s had loads of female attention! That attention can make these sorts of men really get above themselves. Vile.

So you've also fallen for the bubbly/jolly my too

Surely you can pass judgement on the ugly women you know. What are their traits? You surely don’t need to be attracted to to someone to know A. they are ugly and B. what they are like. Right?

This is so gross.

I’m a model and beautiful people do ugly things just like so called “ ugly” people.

For the record though I’ve never met an “ ugly “ person. I’ve met mean and cruel people but not someone physically ugly.

Anytime someone smiles or laughs or shows strength and grace I think they are bloody gorgeous.

this thread is horrible and I wonder what your motive is.
My boyfriend is shorter than average, middle age with the spread, bald, huge sticky out ears, wears glasses and has a speech impediment. He is autistic and has had very little experience with women. But he makes me laugh, he makes me happy, and we have lots of good times together.
The most vile people I have met have been the ones that are up their own ass and think they are the best thing on the planet. They might look good on the outside, but they are not nice people.

What a twatty, nasty thread.

Your "ugly" could be my "stunning". The only ugly people in this world are those who talk shite like this.

Ah you're thinking, she's a shallow bimbo. No, I don't only hate them because of their looks, it's because they are SO over-appreciative of me daring to look at them. "Oh Sian, you're so beautiful, why are you talking to me, etc etc...". And they go on and on. Attractive guys don't talk like that

No, they don't. They expect you to be over appreciative of them speaking to you.
Because they're soooo attractive they don't need to be nice. Right?

Are you trying to be an Andrew Tate/Incel case study?

Yes, I have actually. The nicer men I've known have been good looking or average.

'Give him a chance' is terrible advice given to women - the 'he' is still a man after all.

I totally disagree with you OP. At 18 I worked in an office with loads of good looking blokes. Some less so, and the one man who was the least physically attractive actually caught my interest because of his keen wit and his absolute confidence in himself. He was no oil painting but he oozed humour and warmth and he owned charisma. There was just "something" about him that transcended mere good looks. He had unkempt hair and acne. Sounds awful, I know, but his sound common sense and fairness to women (long time ago. Women used to be second class citizens) shone through.

It may be that he did not consider himself unattractive so had no reason to behave as if he thought he was. I thought I was in with a chance but somebody got in there before me.

So YABU

I tend to find people more or less attractive based on their personalities.

I can't agree to a blanket 'all ugly men' etc. One of the reasons is that I think mostly all men vastly over rate their attractiveness, where as in general ai think the average woman will under estimate hers.

I have noticed there is a trend on Instagram where women who have received vile messages from men - shame them, with a photograph and their comment. It is shocking the amount of older men 40's/50s commenting. One guy made comments like 'pump & dump' rated her a 3/10. Said she was past it. He was a bald obese man in his late 50s early 60s was photographed with what looked like his granddaughters.

Call me old fashioned but I prefer personality and someone that can make me laugh.

I’ve TOTALLY had the same experience as you OP! I’ve had relationships with both ugly and very good looking men. The former are bitter, vile and controlling - the latter are more direct (in a good way)

Jesus this is horrrible. I agree with @Princessconsuelabananahammock9. I’ve never met anyone who i would consider ugly just from appearance alone. Ugliness radiates from the inside and ruins good looks in my opinion. Even the most conventionally unattractive person will have some redeeming features.

Absolutely agree and short men!

Usually very jealous of other women and never in support of other women

Why do people get upset over threads like this like men are not always saying stuff about women?
women apparently “expire” after 25
we can have our little rants about them as well!

Switch men with women and you would fit right in with the incels. I love Mumsnet but the men bashing on here is ridiculous and has led to this website getting a reputation as being over run with bitter women with misplaced anger.

This was actually a topic of discussion on social media fairly recently and you’re not wrong. I (and every single one of my friends) have had similar experiences. The most attractive men I’ve dated have always treated me the best, so personally I stick with that.

Yes I get you OP

Tye ugly men I’ve known are shits

How many people are actually ugly, really? I'd say it's pretty rare, and it's usually women. And they're all very lovely. YABU.

What a vile thread. I don’t believe in “ ugly”. We are all different and shouldn’t think value lies in looking a certain way. Male or female.

So you're just saying that people who are ugly on the outside are generally ugly on the inside?

Original.

(and wrong).