Theme park queue jumping for DLP

[RichSherl]

Probably the wrong place to ask this but...

My DP wants us to employ a theme park queue jumper for when we go to Disneyland Paris in October.

I didn't even know these things existed?!?!?! 🤐

I've not been to DLP for a number of years but apparently it's a thing that people go with their disabled parents just so they can skip queues for rides and to see characters etc?

Can anyone corroborate this? It seems mad to me and beyond unethical.

Anyway, AIBU or should we really use someone like this to help us skip queues?

This is so morally wrong 🙈

Well I hope you or anyone close to you doesn’t become disabled.

You have no idea how lucky you are.

Fortunately most of the people I meet in real life are kind, who understand the difficulties disabled people face and want to help them alleviate some of this.

I expect you’re a very bitter and unpleasant person.

@RichSherl i hope you tell your husband how disgusting his suggestion is.

If he does go ahead with it, I hope he gets caught and banned from the park

You don’t know anything about my life or me, just because I have a different opinion doesn’t make me angry or bitter! I just don’t agree that you should queue jump without paying for it, it’s just that simple

So people who are in the fortunate position to be able to afford to pay can skip the queue, but people whose disability makes potentially simple daily living tasks difficult/painful/stressful day after day shouldn’t be given the same accommodation. If you were in a queue and there was someone with a disability struggling you wouldn’t let them go ahead of you?

I have been at dlp with someone who needed the disability access pass and also without. The trip without was at a busy weekend but we were still able to get much more done overall by having a longer day. Obviously there are exceptions like mick, but most people likely use the time they save qeueing to take breaks and rest, take care of health needs, potentially take longer to get to and from rides etc. There might also be things they can’t do even with the pass due to disability so their experience is not as full also.

Having clicked on the link I’m simply disgusted. Both with the guy offering this ‘service’ (who is doubtless also claiming every benefit going and not declaring this as income) and with the moral compass of your DP who could remotely even consider doing this. How disabled can someone actually be if they are available for unlimited exhausting days out at theme parks? Not to mention having no problem with all the travel etc. Hopefully he will come under closer scrutiny with the DWP clampdown since he clearly could work at an actual job. And if your DP is too impatient or can’t be bothered to queue just give theme parks a miss, they aren’t compulsory. Be grateful that your family clearly doesn’t have to deal with the challenges 24/7/365 involved with genuine disability.

Absolutely not. It’s immoral. Just pay the money for the fast pass or queue like everyone else.

So many threads recently on MN supporting cuts to disability benefits and ranting about ‘free cars’, but this thread proves beyond a shadow of a doubt the breathtaking entitlement of some. There is nothing that is reserved as intended for the benefit of disabled people, that some people will not try to take for themselves no matter what the knock on effects for those for whom they are actually meant.

And it’s always the genuinely disabled who pay the price, whether it’s cuts to massively oversubscribed disability benefits, lack of blue badge parking spaces, or tightened eligibility which locks them out of concessions they would benefit from - or in this case massively increased queues for disability concessions at a theme park.

Funny how people never stop to think beyond whatever concession they are effectively stealing to ask themselves whether they would want the disability that goes with it.

This is beyond disgusting. I wish there were some way of reporting 'Mick' - who has been careful to have his website photos taken from behind - and his parasitic business. He'll even meet with you in order to park in a disabled space!

OP, you know this is wrong, otherwise you wouldn't even be posting in AIBU. Your husband is a selfish and stupid twat. Theme parks often have long queues in peak time. So either you suck that up or you skive off (at least you're only disadvantaging your own children rather than the genuinely disabled ones you're pushing in front of) and do it in term time. I couldn't face a theme park with my severely autistic son and it's anyway not his jam, but the idea that the disabled queues and the 'queue jumper' system are being abused like this really angers me. If yous husband wants to play at having a disabled person in his family group - please, take my son for a day! See how you enjoy looking after him and stopping him from running off, killing himself because he has no sense of danger, coping with his meltdowns.

Every time you think you've heard it all, a new thing pops up and you realise that there are always more ways for someone to be a cf.

If you want to go to Disney, just go on the longer queue rides after 5pm when most people go for dinner. You can pay for fast passes on anything that is still too long. Much cheaper for you and no need for the random weirdo to join your holiday.

Accommodations for disabled people are not a fucking "privilege". I can't tell if you're being goady or if you genuinely don't understand the meaning of the words you're using.

Imagine being so bitter and twisted you actually resent disabled children not having to pay to be able to access public spaces you don't even want to go to.

This is why I have never seen the attraction of Queue World, whatever the branding.
I sincerely believe there is a gap in the market for somewhere that only lets in the number of people it can accommodate, and has ride times booked in advance.

Sorry but I agree the disabled person should need to ride. Otherwise you could have a family using a pass where the disabled person doesn’t go on anything at all.

What if a family goes to a theme park and one child is just too small to ride the big rides? They really really want to but they’re just an inch too short. The rest of the family want to go on the big rides. Sadly, either the child needs to wait elsewhere with one family member or some parks offer parent swap but that still means they need to queue once. Same for if one person in the family is pregnant or has a back issue etc. It’s unfortunate when one person can’t ride what everyone else wants to, but in that situation there is ways round it. Disabled access is meant to make it so disabled people can access rides they otherwise couldn’t. Not just so their family don’t need to miss out on the odd ride or have to queue separately.

l’d wager that you also support the proposed cuts to disability benefits and think that Motability cars are ‘free’. Thankfully the rest of society recognises that having a disability which makes your life difficult, warrants concessions that make some things that little bit easier, or more enjoyable, and are placed above monetary value. It’s called kindness and compassion. You should try it sometime.

Then you should not be concerned about what concessions are available. It is not inconveniencing you one way, or another.

If you were in a queue and there was someone with a disability struggling you wouldn’t let them go ahead of you?

Judging by the posts I seriously doubt it.

I agree.

If my disabled son can’t go on something the other two have to queue with one of us while the other takes him to a cafe or similar. They can’t use his access pass if he’s not there!

I can’t believe this poster jumped her boyfriend ahead and then didn’t even go on the ride! Outrageous behaviour. What sort of person goes along with it too - the boyfriend going in front of actually disabled people with no shame.

My god this thread is depressing for the amount of awful people out there

Because some people think that disabled people should sit at home and wait quietly for death.

Exactly. It’s bollocks. But people like this are the bloody reason.

We don't use queue jump even though DS would qualify for it, a lot of the children I see definitely don't look like they actually need it.
We've had to leave queues at times and have to be mindful of when DC is getting close to being overwhelmed as he will run, but over the years it's got easier. The same with pantomimes, we do the regular ones and have had 2 where one of us left partway through with him, one he didn't want to go back into but the next we went back in after he'd had some time stroking the wall to calm himself. The last one we did he managed the whole way through.

Obviously there are cases where it's needed, but if the child is verbal and understands what is going on then it's not really doing them any favours avoiding exposing them to things they find hard.
Theme parks are the ideal place for practicing that too as there's the reward of the ride at the end compared to other busy places where they are just overwhelmed without much or any benefit for them to see.
I think taking a relative may be the outlier here, if it's a grandparent there is actually a benefit to them going if they actually want to, regardless of why the parent has chosen it the DGC are getting experiences with their grandparents by them going.

For someone disabled it just reinforces that there is no concession or facility intended to make their life easier, that some selfish twat somewhere won’t try to take for themselves. With the inevitable result that eligibility will be tightened and it will be made much more difficult to access, even for those for whom it was meant.

This. It’s akin to lending out your disabled badge when you’re not present in the car.

It would take a rather mean spirited person, to begrudge the small concessions available to disabled people, to help make life easier, or Heaven forbid, enjoyable, now, and again!

And there was me feeling guilty for considering a pass for my severely disabled non verbal son.

YES that was my first thought.

This chap is just making it harder for the users of disabled passes who really need them and use them appropriately. Theme parks getting wind of this may start asking to see proof of relationship or similar.