Theme park queue jumping for DLP

[RichSherl]

Probably the wrong place to ask this but...

My DP wants us to employ a theme park queue jumper for when we go to Disneyland Paris in October.

I didn't even know these things existed?!?!?! 🤐

I've not been to DLP for a number of years but apparently it's a thing that people go with their disabled parents just so they can skip queues for rides and to see characters etc?

Can anyone corroborate this? It seems mad to me and beyond unethical.

Anyway, AIBU or should we really use someone like this to help us skip queues?

Then why post ?

A bit unethical ? To park in a disabled bay the disabled person - the badge holder has to be present. Same for free ULEZ and discounted or free tolls. The concession is meant for the disabled person - no-one else.

And I’ll end by addressing your comment on PIP. Unless you live with someone 24 hours a day 365 days a year, have access to their medical records and the medical knowledge to understand it and it’s effects, are privy to the details of their benefit claim and the DWP assessment on which it was awarded, you’re in no position to judge whether people qualify for PIP or not. The ethics are not blurred, they’re perfectly clear - disability concessions are meant for the disabled. And what others do or do not do, doesn’t make it right.

Wow OP, you are clearly as much of a dick as your partner.

I really hope that you get caught and banned if you’re found doing this. People like you make me sick.

Thanks for the abusive response. Reported.

You’re most welcome.

Important you understand that you’d be making disabled people’s lives more difficult by doing this.

Nice to know you don’t care about this at all and you’re teaching them it’s more important that they have a great time and make disabled people’s time a lot worse in the process.

No wonder there are so many unpleasant and selfish people around if these are the examples they’re following.

Im also interested in all these “soft” benefits you mention that disabled people get. Can you expand on them please?

My child is non verbal and in a wheelchair - we must be missing out on all these fabulous benefits!

Could you actually look at yourself in the mirror if you skipped in front of my child with your hired weirdo in the queue at Disneyland?

As a matter of fact we're not going to use this guy's services, no.

The soft-benefits are (as I partially listed before)...
disabled parking spaces, free ULEZ, not pay bridge/motorway tolls, motability, priority seating in the cinema/bus/theatre/concert (with the discounted companion seats), public transport concessions, discounts national trust/english heritage etc and of course priority queuing (i.e. the topic of this thread).

I'm not saying life as a disabled person is easy (nor as a disabled parent).

Would you really swap those "benefits" for being able bodied?

I'd rather be able to drive than get discounts on the quite frankly shitty public transport. I'd rather have the option of going to the theatre and being able to actually enjoy the full experience than taking a companion because I need someone to help me

These are given to try and make a disabled person’s life a little easier. They’re not “benefits” and the fact you are calling them this shows how absolutely clueless you are and it’s frankly offensive.

You clearly have no idea how lucky you are that you would even ask the question about skipping queues with a fraudulent disabled pass.

I didn’t think I could be anymore shocked at people’s behaviour but every day someone else needs to plumb new depths.

My child will never be able to live independently and I worry about his future in my every waking moment and I fear that his siblings’ lives will be forever impacted by the fact that they will then be responsible for him when we(his parents) die.

you then you come across people who think he gets loads of “soft benefits” - wow a free go in the ULEZ zone! - and want their child to fraudulently skip ahead of him in a queue.

WOW. Just wow. I despair of humanity

Clueless and offensive. Disabled people only qualify for motability if they are severely disabled enough to be in receipt of enhanced mobility allowance. Blue badge eligibility is difficult to satisfy, and othe others you mention are concessions in the same spirit as PIP is paid - I recognition of the difficulty and significant extra expense of living with disability. The fact that you would consider or describe any of these as ‘soft’ benefits nicely sums up your attitude.

Again - do you not understand how offensive this is?

It is NOT a perk - it’s a concession to help navigate how difficult life is because of a disability.

How lucky are disabled people eh! All these perks just for having a pesky disability that affects every single aspect of their lives, which are much more difficult than anyone else’s.

Can we not just be honest though and admit the difference is just semantics?

It’s not semantics though.

You clearly can’t conceive of what disability actually means and how it affects people’s lives.

If someone with direct lived experience is telling you that you’re wrong, you should really back down.

It’s not semantics though is it ? Ask anyone with lived experience of disability and they will tell you. As some have here.

I’ve reported this comment. Can you really not see how utterly offensive is the notion that disability attracts ‘perks’ ? Those ‘perks’ are actually reasonable adjustments offered by a society compassionate and empathetic enough to understand how difficult it is to negotiate life with a disability, and to want to help mitigate that difficulty however and wherever possible. You should try ‘simply being disabled’. I can assure you that it puts you at a disadvantage in life that no ‘perk’ could ever make up for.

Yes it's really such a perk going somewhere and not being able to access half of it.

I had this on Saturday. Entitled to a concession ticket. But can't access a lot of the venue. I'd rather pay the standard price and be able to actually enjoy the whole thing

Being given access when you have access needs due to disability is not a fucking ‘perk’

holy fuck, how ignorant can a person be

Are you for real??

PERKS?!

I'd much rather have the perk of being able bodied. These are not fucking perks, they're to make a shit life a little less shit.

Fuck me.

I still don't really understand why you're troubled about someone describing a queue jump as being a perk when you don't seem half as bothered about a man that's literally exploiting it for his own gain?

My posts upthread indicated exactly what l thought of anyone who exploits disability concessions for financial gain, as well as those who use their services. You simply don’t seem to grasp that the concessions and adjustments available to disabled people are not ‘perks’ and it’ s crass and offensive to refer to them as such. It’s akin to a man who has lost both legs being told not to worry because now he can park his car wherever he likes !! These concessions are offered in recognition of the fact that disability puts the person at a disadvantage from the start. The concession merely redresses the balance. It’s not rocket science and the fact that your post was deleted should surely reinforce the fact that your language was ableist.

But it's factual!

No, it’s really not. And l think you know that. Would you really rock up to a person with no legs and suggest that the resulting issue of a blue disabled parking badge is a ‘perk’ of losing their legs ? Would you not think that the person would rather have two good legs and not need the badge ? It’s not a perk - a perk is an advantage as a result of something. There is no advantage to disability, and there is no concession that makes up for the disability itself. So no. Not factual at all. Totally incorrect in fact.

What the actual fuck did I just read?! This is DISGUSTING. My DS is profoundly disabled. All this means is that people who don’t need the accommodation of a priority pass will be in the priority line making them twice as long for people with genuine disabilities who can’t access Disney without it.

If this is genuine, your DH is a terrible person.

Not always, sometimes people in wheelchairs get priority and the people who can't go in small/dark/crowded/loud places get stuck in to join the main queue where the fasttrack people join and have to go through the ride building (pirates at DLP, Thirteen at AT, Spiderman at DLP, ect)

How do you know they were queue jumpers and didn't have additional needs or a disability