Theme park queue jumping for DLP

[RichSherl]

Probably the wrong place to ask this but...

My DP wants us to employ a theme park queue jumper for when we go to Disneyland Paris in October.

I didn't even know these things existed?!?!?! 🤐

I've not been to DLP for a number of years but apparently it's a thing that people go with their disabled parents just so they can skip queues for rides and to see characters etc?

Can anyone corroborate this? It seems mad to me and beyond unethical.

Anyway, AIBU or should we really use someone like this to help us skip queues?

I wonder if 'Mick' and his fellow queue jumpers are DBS checked, in preparation for spending days with children...

Fortunately I’m not interested in theme park big rides (big wussy) but ultimately the theme park allow too many people in. No one should have to queue for 50 minutes to get on a ride.
Years ago I took dgc to Thomas Land.
The queues were hideous and we only got onto 2 rides! Foolishly went again and managed 3 rides. Not worth the money.
#missespointofthread

When we went to collect our priorities pass at the hotel concierge the guy did look closely at us. It was in a very friendly way as it is quite obviously my daughter is my daughter and we had the proof needed which was an identification card from an autism charity.

I wonder would that guy trigger someone in the system.

Oh wait!!!

I meant I had the disabled pass. Not a queue jumper. I had one. But I have a condition which means lots of standing isn’t good for me

it was excellent but yeah. It can be restricting.

They’ve changed it now

my pass last year (disabled pass) had my photo on it…so I had to go on the rides to use it.

Easier and less morally questionable to go with a pregnant pal @RichSherl. Think pregnant women can be accompanied by 4 people. The downside is that you can’t go on all the rides when pregnant. But you get to skip the queues for the things you can go on, and all the food/ restaurant queues.

See. I dont look disabled and we never had one issued

not the entire time we were there.

This. We got denied a pass at Legoland with our severely autistic child after making us queue for over an hour in the disability queue (which was a nightmare with our child) because they have changed the rules.

It seemed to benefit the people who knew how to "game" the system and not people with a genuine need

That’s disgusting - i thought at first you were talking about the paid for queue bots. And i would also question what motivates a middle aged man to go on holiday with a family of complete strangers.

It's a disgusting thing to do!!!

I took my disabled child to DLP a number of years ago and we had to provide a lot of information to get the pass, without it we wouldn't have been able to visit.

OP with a bit of clever planning you don't need a queue jumper for Disneyland Paris. Although I have experience with both.

They have a nifty app that shows the queuing times for each ride. Plan to go on the popular one's at the start of day, end of the day and during times when the parades are on. Rides like Pirates of the Carribean are really quiet around parade times.

Crush's coaster is the absolute worst ride for queue times so is an absolute must to do at the start of the day. Spiderman WEB adventure can also be bad.

We went in Summer 2022 as a family of 4 and got on all the rides we wanted to without a queue jumper (albeit the avengers campus opened 2 weeks after we let).

We returned Christmas 2023 with mother-in-law who has a disability and did take advantage of queue jumping. Part of me felt bad that we all skipped, but then I also thought most queuers weren't living with a lifelong debilitating illness like MIL so take the perks like jumping when they come.

You absolutely don't need a queue jumpe, I enjoyed both trips equally, but admittedly it was handy.

Totally immoral

Sorry I didn't read the thread properly and assume you were going with a disabled relative. That type of service is really immorale. I'd rather queue than attend a theme park with a complete stranger.

As I previously said Disneyland Paris isn't that bad. You asbolutely can avoid significant queueing if you're smart, use the ride wait times app, plan around that, and go on the popular rides during peak meal, and parade times. The first hour of the park is also essential for the ridiculous rides like Crush's coaster than can have queue times of up to 3 hours.

Tbf I enjoyed the many theatre shows that they had on, the parades, and generally walking around far more than the few minutes of thrills the rides offer.

The majority of rides are the same as any other themepark rides with exception of a few. Spiderman WEB adventure was unlike anything I've ever been on and the Buzz lightyear ride was extremely enjoyable. Most other are a variation of riding around a track or spinning in circles a few times.

Needing a another person with you when you're ab adult isn't a "privilege". I'm quite often finding that certain things aren't accessible. So that often means paying the same price (unless I'm lucky and can get a concession plus free carer) and not being able to access everything

How is that fair?

We don't use queue jump even though DS would qualify for it, a lot of the children I see definitely don't look like they actually need it.

One of my children probably doesn't 'look' like he needs it when you see him in the fast moving DAS lane at WDW, because he's sufficiently regulated. But believe me, you wouldn't want to be next to him in a long stationary line and if you were you'd be in no doubt that this is a child who needs accommodations for his disability. We've tried without the pass, he didn't cope and it was hell for us (probably everyone in the vicinity) until we had to admit defeat and leave. The DAS pass means he can actually enjoy the experience, although we still have to take frequent breaks, pick less busy times/days, utilise sensory rooms/quiet areas etc. It's disheartening knowing people are looking at DS with suspicion and thinking "hmmm, he doesn't look that disabled" because the accommodation he's entitled to is doing it's job.

Totally wrong I had a massive argument with my sister. Wanted to use one of my kids so she didn't have to queue for a stand up roller coaster. My kids love roller coasters so do . But they also have severe autism and are non verbal. Even I knew I would shit myself on it. So wouldn't put my kids through it so she a full grown ass adult with no disabilities didn't have to queue.

This is really disingenuous as there are known issues with the disability access services being manipulated and abused. The sheer volume of people trying to use the system in Disneyworld meant they had to tighten the rules as it was becoming unmanageable.

Ultimately these services are meant to provide disabled people with equal access to the rides but they actually often provide much superior access. This is why there is an incentive for people to lie, exaggerate and cheat to get access to these passes that can effectively be used as a fast pass to gain access to far more rides than someone without a pass can go on. This not only means that non disabled people have to wait excessively long in queues but it extends the disability access queues making them unusable for some disabled people.

It is also really important to remember that just because someone isn't disabled, it doesn't mean that they don't struggle to queue. Many people go to theme parks with young children, people with mobility issues and older relatives. It just isn't realistic to expect these people to queue 90 plus minutes because the wait has been lengthened by disabled guests being able to jump the queue and ride their favourite attraction over and over again.

What if you don't get on with Mick and you're stuck with him?

OP actually think about what you plan to do here.

You want to hire a disabled person so you can go in the disabled queues, making actual disabled people wait longer. Say that back to yourself, you want to jump in front of actual disabled people, who need disabled access.

This makes disabled access completely moot if able bodied people can just buy chaperones to abuse the system. This is as bad as, if not worse than "borrowing" a blue badge so you can park in disabled bays. How could you even consider this. Think of the people who need this OP, disabled access isn't some privilege, there's kids with Cancer, autism, wheelchair users who struggle to access these fun activities because they can't mentally or physically manage and you would have them wait behind you in a queue.

I can't type what I want to because it would probably be deleted. So I will just ask you this. Why are you with someone totally selfish who wants to make disabled people struggle?

No more from the OP I see. Maybe she is busy with Mick, and her DP at DLP.🤔

It’s awful and immoral as many have stated. Just buy fast passes.
I went to WDW fairly recently and had a DAS pass for my DC. It helped immensely and meant we were able to enjoy the park. Sadly now their disability is so great they wouldn’t be able to go at all now even with a disability pass.
In contrast, the system at Universal was awful as they give away so many fast passes that the queue for disabled people is very long, sometimes longer than the normal queue. This led to many panic attacks while queuing, having to abandon the queue and just not trying to access some rides. The more people who abuse the system, the more disabled people just miss out, it’s very selfish and immoral.

Yes, I would.

How do you know though? My son doesn't look like he needs it until he does, but has a bladder condition, ADHD and ASD. I'm curious to know how people who don't need these passes get them. I thought you had to show evidence such as PIP or DLA.

@BreakingPoint555 At DLP it's evidence-based but at WDW it's based on an interview, and I don't know about Universal in Florida, Legoland etc.