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Lack of human contact causing MH crisis?

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Flipslop · 20/04/2025 23:20

I’ve been doing alot of reading (and have some formal training) in MH matters, particularly around trauma and burnout recovery. A key thing that keeps coming up is the fundamental need for human contact to keep mentally well, especially when recovering from trauma.
whats everyone’s thoughts on this? I think I’ve really seen the detrimental affect on my own mental health since working from home over the last 5 years
am I being reasonable to think WFH and just generally a more distant society is stacking up for MH crisis?

OP posts:
drspouse · 21/04/2025 14:21

I think everyone has their optimal level, but below that leads to poor mental health. Mine is high.
I also think anxiety around genuinely normal means of communication (e.g. phoning - you are better off doing it regularly to stop yourself worrying about it, than totally avoiding it) is unhealthy. You will have to make phone calls some day so don't make them out to be a big thing. You may not enjoy chatting on the phone (though you might like it better if you did it more often and it was with your friends, than if the only time you talked on the phone was with the GP or the estate agent).

Upstartled · 21/04/2025 14:21

LSmiff · 21/04/2025 14:12

Some people enjoy their own company whilst others don’t. So what could cause problems for one person will leave another feeling elated.

I don't think that's true. I like my own company and can comfortably spend long periods of time alone and utterly content. But contentedly being alone for eons is still detrimental to well being.

It undermines social skills, social resilience, social flexibility, adaptability, confidence - and it does so quietly, like the boiled frog - so that when you need to call on those qualities you are left scrambling.

And then along comes the new social narrative to say you are just introverted, it's fine, just lean into this 'personality trait' and makes soothing noises while you become ever more adrift.

XenoBitch · 21/04/2025 14:21

It varies. When I am unwell, I isolate myself. Isolating myself is a symptom for me, not the cause of my issues.
Covid did a huge number on me as I was at the tail end of yet another acute episode and was getting out to see people... then was no longer allowed to.

BoredZelda · 21/04/2025 14:22

Flipslop · 20/04/2025 23:28

Yes, you’re right, I did think of that before I wrote the post but forgot to mention it, guess it works best for some. However I do worry about my introvert friends who, I feel are getting ‘out of practice’ interacting with people.
im a sociable person so can see it would affect me more than someone who doesn’t enjoy face to face interaction

Your introvert friends are doing just fine. We don't all have to bend to what the extroverts want or think we need.

Lack of social contact is only a MH issue if you want it and don’t have it.

BoredZelda · 21/04/2025 14:23

AnotherMondayYay · 21/04/2025 14:20

It’s easy to say ‘oh I love my own company’ until reality sets in and you realise one day that you have nobody to do anything with even if you wanted to because you’ve isolated yourself.

I’m 51. That day hasn’t come yet.

EmpressaurusKitty · 21/04/2025 14:24

I’m an introvert & I live with my cat, because the mere idea of other people living in my home is an utter nightmare.

I’m in the office one day a week & I enjoy seeing my team. On the days I’m not in, I usually spend time with people either before or after work - usually at the gym or a class - & often bump into a friend or neighbour for a chat on the way. I see friends or family most weekends.

As far as I’m concerned it’s a good balance. Plenty of time with people, but able to close my front door to relax & recharge.

EmmaWoodhouseOfHighbury · 21/04/2025 14:25

faerietales · 21/04/2025 13:46

Of course I'm projecting - every single person who has answered this thread is projecting - that's what people do when they're asked for their opinions.

I also never said I "couldn't comprehend" anything, nor did I suggest that I wouldn't let other people do what they want.

My post seems to have hit a nerve, even though practically everyone else has said the same thing as me. Odd.

And now you're gaslighting!!

andtheworldrollson · 21/04/2025 14:25

I found covid really showed me how being in an office filled with people was really bad for my mental health so whilst it may be a factor for sone , I don’t think it’s true for all by any means

the differences I see are around resilience. I feel that there is too much “you can be whoever you want” and less “life is tough, get on with it” being taught to childen . Too much finding ways to avoid conflict and not enough learning a that sometimes the answer is no. And too much poor quality food and too much time indoors

Orangesandlemons77 · 21/04/2025 14:25

Is it just me who seems to get lots of messages on social media about the joy of being alone? For example the following.

It feels heavy when you realize that living life alone might be the safest choice. As you get older, the picture shifts. The dream of building a life with someone steady begins to fade, replaced by the understanding that it may never happen. And the realization does not arrive in chaos or heartbreak. It comes quietly, in a simple moment.
You are in the kitchen, holding a warm mug of tea. Dinner for one simmers on the stove. The room stays still. No voices. No laughter. Just the sound of the refrigerator humming and the spoon gently tapping the edge of the cup.
That is when it settles in—this life, as it stands, belongs to you. Quiet. Unshared. Entirely yours.
You never made the decision to be alone. That decision slowly arrived after too many conversations filled with perfect words but empty action. It happened after long talks at 2 a.m., after shared playlists, after voice notes that made promises they never kept. One day the replies slowed. The energy shifted. You stared at your phone, wondering if you were asking for too much or simply too easy to forget.
You met people who were still carrying their past, still tied to people they claimed were out of their lives. Some stayed just long enough to disrupt your peace but never long enough to offer real presence. They held on to you loosely, refusing to let go, yet never offering anything firm to hold onto.
You live in a time where confusion is dressed up as love. Where emotional unavailability looks like strength. Where detachment feels more common than honesty. The truth is, choosing to remain single often feels like the only way to protect your peace and well-being.
You know what you bring. You know what lives in your heart. But sometimes it feels like you will never find a place to bring that love. The table remains empty, no matter how much you carry.
Eventually, you stopped asking. You stopped waiting. You stopped offering your heart to people who only ever showed up halfway.
Now, everything happens alone. You carry in the groceries. You cook your favorite meals. You take yourself out—to bookstores, cafés, and little parks with shaded benches.
In the beginning, it stung. Seeing couples holding hands, laughing, sharing private jokes. But slowly, the silence started to feel calm. The quiet began to feel like peace.
It did not always feel peaceful. The bed once felt too wide. The silence once felt sharp. You missed the small things—someone checking in, remembering how you like your coffee, asking if you made it home safe. But with time, you stopped expecting it. You stopped checking your phone. You stopped offering pieces of yourself to people who never planned to stay.
Now, your phone stays quiet. The low battery alert feels more familiar than any “good morning” text. No one calls to ask about your day. And somehow, you have learned to be okay with that.
You light candles at dinner. You buy flowers for your kitchen table. You drive with your favorite music playing, windows down, no one in the passenger seat. You sleep soundly across the entire bed. There is no confusion. No disappointment. No need to beg for affection.
People say you are strong. They admire your independence. But they do not see the nights you cry into your pillow. They do not feel the weight you carry alone. They do not hear the quiet disappointment of getting through another day without anyone truly showing up.
Still, you keep going. You show up for yourself. Again and again.
Maybe healing looks like this. Soft. Steady. Silent. Maybe it means choosing yourself every day, even when no one else does.
And if real love finds you—present, honest, consistent—you might welcome it.
But if it never comes?
This life you built is still enough.
You are still enough.
And in this quiet space you created, alone no longer means empty. It means safe. It means home.

WhatNoRaisins · 21/04/2025 14:25

I think socialisation is like exercise. Some people love it and enjoy running marathons or extreme sports while others would rather stick to a brisk walk or something like swimming and others much prefer to just sit on the sofa. However all types of people need some exercise to stay healthy.

I know that this sounds judgemental but I'm not convinced it's at all healthy to isolate yourself.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 21/04/2025 14:28

Upstartled · 21/04/2025 13:57

I think being sociable - even if it feels a little awkward or uncomfortable - is the mental equivalent of eating your vegetables. I think the covid interventions left some people utterly malnourished.

Brilliant!

Delatron · 21/04/2025 14:28

LSmiff · 21/04/2025 14:12

Some people enjoy their own company whilst others don’t. So what could cause problems for one person will leave another feeling elated.

You see I enjoy my own company. But I genuinely believe very few people would thrive on zero human contact.

Some people are more sociable than others for sure. But loneliness will have an impact on you long term in terms of life span. It’s huge.

EmpressaurusKitty · 21/04/2025 14:31

Orangesandlemons77 · 21/04/2025 14:25

Is it just me who seems to get lots of messages on social media about the joy of being alone? For example the following.

It feels heavy when you realize that living life alone might be the safest choice. As you get older, the picture shifts. The dream of building a life with someone steady begins to fade, replaced by the understanding that it may never happen. And the realization does not arrive in chaos or heartbreak. It comes quietly, in a simple moment.
You are in the kitchen, holding a warm mug of tea. Dinner for one simmers on the stove. The room stays still. No voices. No laughter. Just the sound of the refrigerator humming and the spoon gently tapping the edge of the cup.
That is when it settles in—this life, as it stands, belongs to you. Quiet. Unshared. Entirely yours.
You never made the decision to be alone. That decision slowly arrived after too many conversations filled with perfect words but empty action. It happened after long talks at 2 a.m., after shared playlists, after voice notes that made promises they never kept. One day the replies slowed. The energy shifted. You stared at your phone, wondering if you were asking for too much or simply too easy to forget.
You met people who were still carrying their past, still tied to people they claimed were out of their lives. Some stayed just long enough to disrupt your peace but never long enough to offer real presence. They held on to you loosely, refusing to let go, yet never offering anything firm to hold onto.
You live in a time where confusion is dressed up as love. Where emotional unavailability looks like strength. Where detachment feels more common than honesty. The truth is, choosing to remain single often feels like the only way to protect your peace and well-being.
You know what you bring. You know what lives in your heart. But sometimes it feels like you will never find a place to bring that love. The table remains empty, no matter how much you carry.
Eventually, you stopped asking. You stopped waiting. You stopped offering your heart to people who only ever showed up halfway.
Now, everything happens alone. You carry in the groceries. You cook your favorite meals. You take yourself out—to bookstores, cafés, and little parks with shaded benches.
In the beginning, it stung. Seeing couples holding hands, laughing, sharing private jokes. But slowly, the silence started to feel calm. The quiet began to feel like peace.
It did not always feel peaceful. The bed once felt too wide. The silence once felt sharp. You missed the small things—someone checking in, remembering how you like your coffee, asking if you made it home safe. But with time, you stopped expecting it. You stopped checking your phone. You stopped offering pieces of yourself to people who never planned to stay.
Now, your phone stays quiet. The low battery alert feels more familiar than any “good morning” text. No one calls to ask about your day. And somehow, you have learned to be okay with that.
You light candles at dinner. You buy flowers for your kitchen table. You drive with your favorite music playing, windows down, no one in the passenger seat. You sleep soundly across the entire bed. There is no confusion. No disappointment. No need to beg for affection.
People say you are strong. They admire your independence. But they do not see the nights you cry into your pillow. They do not feel the weight you carry alone. They do not hear the quiet disappointment of getting through another day without anyone truly showing up.
Still, you keep going. You show up for yourself. Again and again.
Maybe healing looks like this. Soft. Steady. Silent. Maybe it means choosing yourself every day, even when no one else does.
And if real love finds you—present, honest, consistent—you might welcome it.
But if it never comes?
This life you built is still enough.
You are still enough.
And in this quiet space you created, alone no longer means empty. It means safe. It means home.

What a weird message.

After my divorce & years of house sharing as I saved up for my own place, I practically cried with joy when I could finally live alone. And living alone absolutely does not have to equate to being lonely & isolated - or having a silent phone!

faerietales · 21/04/2025 14:32

Lack of social contact is only a MH issue if you want it and don’t have it.

But isn't that kind of the point some people are trying to make? That if you isolate yourself and choose to stay home constantly, you may one day need/want social contact and have no way of getting it.

ThatFirmPearlPlayer · 21/04/2025 14:32

faerietales · 21/04/2025 13:46

Of course I'm projecting - every single person who has answered this thread is projecting - that's what people do when they're asked for their opinions.

I also never said I "couldn't comprehend" anything, nor did I suggest that I wouldn't let other people do what they want.

My post seems to have hit a nerve, even though practically everyone else has said the same thing as me. Odd.

Fair enough.

Yes I am sensitive.

Sorry.

drspouse · 21/04/2025 14:33

BoredZelda · 21/04/2025 14:22

Your introvert friends are doing just fine. We don't all have to bend to what the extroverts want or think we need.

Lack of social contact is only a MH issue if you want it and don’t have it.

What about if you don't want it regularly but you have to have it occasionally or regularly?
So for work, life admin, emergencies, getting stuff done.
If you always avoid it you will naturally become anxious about it. Better to keep your hand in even if your preference is to be alone in your down time.

faerietales · 21/04/2025 14:34

Delatron · 21/04/2025 14:28

You see I enjoy my own company. But I genuinely believe very few people would thrive on zero human contact.

Some people are more sociable than others for sure. But loneliness will have an impact on you long term in terms of life span. It’s huge.

Yep - I’m far from sociable and can easily entertain myself at home for days or weeks at a time.

But ultimately I know I need my friends and that friendship involves work and effort. I’ve made the mistake of putting all my eggs in one basket before and it was a massive mistake.

Hastentoadd · 21/04/2025 14:38

Zoldevort · 20/04/2025 23:22

Everyone is different. I find being around people is very stressful. I’m much calmer and better able to cope on my own.

I feel the same so generally agree but I think a bit of human contact is good every once in a while ( with the right people), it can take you out of your own head

AgentJohnson · 21/04/2025 14:38

You do know that the overwhelming majority of people don’t work from home, don’t you?

However I do worry about my introvert friends who, I feel are getting ‘out of practice’ interacting with people.

That sounds very patronising. Believe it or not, not everyone enjoys the level of human interaction that you do. Did you have the same level of concern for your introverted friends who felt pressured into interacting with people when they’d prefer not to.

EmeraldRoulette · 21/04/2025 14:41

faerietales · 21/04/2025 14:32

Lack of social contact is only a MH issue if you want it and don’t have it.

But isn't that kind of the point some people are trying to make? That if you isolate yourself and choose to stay home constantly, you may one day need/want social contact and have no way of getting it.

I am speculating, but I don't think these people will change back.

Meanwhile, if you get off the Internet and go out into the world, try and meet new people, two things happen

  1. there's hardly anybody there in the same situation

  2. the people who are there are often lacking in social skills. They may have had them in the past but isolation has made them very strange.

I'm literally watching this happen to me in real time.

A previous poster talked about the lack of humanity when you ask for mental health help. This may be different because mine was very much a clinical condition and I took pills for a very long time. I didn't want counselling or therapy so I can't really remember what was offered to me.

But there was a lot of humanity in those days. So I wasn't having to navigate mental health issues in the current landscape - which must be truly soul destroying.

Sorry to say, but those of us who are suffering due to a general lack of humanity and human interaction, we are not going to find solutions. If there's ever a solution it will take at least one generation to get there.

YouAreAToy · 21/04/2025 14:47

I need family and friends to keep my mental health good, but I don’t need to go to into an office and have contact with people I don’t really know or like, or have interactions with random people in supermarkets.

My partner and I have worked from home since Covid and we both feel happier. If our employers suggested we went back into the office, we’d find another working from home job or retire early. There is no way we’d go back to going into the office now. A few people at my work tried to suggest we all go back to the office, they were all the ones who talked AT others but showed no real interest in others and weren’t particularly nice people. Maybe they were lonely, but maybe if they had actually been nicer people they wouldn’t be. I’m not going back into the office so they could socialise, or rather talk at me and bitch about others.

My partner and I enjoy spending time with each other, our children and people that we know and like. Covid was great to remove people from our lives that we didn’t really like. Now we just socialise with the people we like and we only do the things we want to do. It’s been very positive for us.

FoxRedPuppy · 21/04/2025 14:47

I have a diagnosed mental illness (Bipolar) and since I’ve been allowed to wfh for some portion of the week (pre covid I was denied even one day a week) I haven’t had a single period of absence for MH. It’s too much for me going to the office everyday.

Add in a child with SEND who was out of school for 18 months- without wfh I would have been jobless. Much worse for my MH.

I have always found small talk hard, sometimes excruciating. I hate supermarket till conversations, I always get it wrong, makes me more anxious and feel shit about myself.

WhatNoRaisins · 21/04/2025 14:47

It's why I always eye roll when I hear people say "put yourself out there". Yeah great solution when it's a. slim pickings and b. you know that you don't have the social skills to pull it off.

ThatFirmPearlPlayer · 21/04/2025 14:48

BethDuttonYeHaw · 21/04/2025 14:17

Wfh is great for my mental health

im not isolated. I have a busy social life and volunteer too.

unless you have stats that show that people are more likely to have mental ill health wfh in comparison to being in a workplace then it’s just another anti wfh thread.

Edited

I think that's what I've ineptedly been trying to say while focusing too much on me as I know I am an extreme example.

The WFH from home revolution because of covid negatively affected many people's MH adversely. But for many, it also led to such a positive affect on their MH that they realised office-working had been so detrimental for many years.

But those people have been largely forgotten or disregarded.

I will be protected by my employer and the law even though I'll have to go through a stressful discriminatory process.

But I know several colleagues who won't meet the threshold for disability protection but will still find it adversely affects their MH but there's an increasing anti-WFH attitude from many, including employers.

With a spurious reason given that it's just 'better' for everyone and for team cohesion and stops people being isolated when people don't feel isolated and aren't and some who actually prefer to be.

Scentbird · 21/04/2025 14:52

Isolation is bad for your mental health. Where the line is between it becoming isolation instead of just being comfortable in your own company changes from person to person.

I don’t think wfh in Particular, contributes to isolation though. It’s not healthy for work to be the only place you socialise with people either. WFH often means people have more time and energy to socialise.

And let’s not forgot, before wfh was popular plenty of people didn’t like the office environment. Didn’t feel part of a group. Felt excluded. Plenty of people were made miserable and exhausted by the office environment and the commute. It’s not like people working in office were never lonely.

Theres many answers to why mental health seems worse or is worse. People talk about it more. People post about it on social media more. That leads to more people seeking help. I don’t think things like media help who learned that terrifying people and sensationalising bad news gets them more views and clicks. A lot of people of all generations being more concerned about how their life looks rather than how it is (though that’s always been a thing in some capacity). Cost of living crisis, house prices, wages not rising, later retirement and a million other reasons contribute to it. Different things contribute in different ways.

There’s no simple answers and simple cause. If there were it would have been solved.