to not understand why Christians think Jesus died for our sins?

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If Jesus died for everyone's sins, does that mean people are not accountable for their actions? You can kill people, steal and lie but have a protected status because Jesus died for your sins.

How does this work? Why are people not responsible for their own sins? Where is the justice?

My family is the most important thing in my life - if they are happy and healthy, I’ve done well in my job as a parent and wife.

Nothing narrow minded about wanting facts and evidence. But your response is the usual one when you don’t have an explanation or answer.

It’s more closed minded to say “I have faith I don’t need evidence and nothing will change that”

I think sceptics are open minded. We want evidence and if it exists, well, we change our views.

My life after death - is I’m dead and in a hole in the ground!

Why would a non believer be concerned about the day of judgement - you haven’t said yet when it is?

If I had an abundance of crops, I’d give them away. Storage wouldn’t be a problem.

If you read the Bible it might answer a lot of your questions. How can you dismiss it if you've never bothered to read it? It might surprise you

If I had evidence I would change my view that god exists but I wouldn’t change my view that he doesn't get my worship or adoration.

I’m an atheist. God, heaven, hell, day of judgement etc don’t exist.

But religious people, a lot of them (not all) still believe in science and things with evidence.

They just have this belief alongside their faith.

Isn’t that what god was supposed to have done with the ten commandments (inscribed the stone himself in front of Moses, (I might be wrong, that might have been the Charlton Heston movie version).

Could someone who truly believes every word of the bible is direct from god explain why he did not write the book himself.

Yes, God did write the 10 commandments direct on a stone. God used people to write the Bible. Be honest, would you be any more likely to believe it if someone held up a document and said it was written by the hand of God directly? The Bible is a historical document full of eyewitness accounts. Yes, there is poetry and other types of literature contained within it, but on the whole it is a historical document with many, many more copies than other documents from the same time period which are accepted as history without question.

I won’t believe anything about god until he shows himself to everyone at once while they are still alive.

Exactly, you are determined not to believe so it would make no difference to you if God had written the Bible by hand himself.

I don’t think it’s right to frame that as “determined not to believe”. Many of us are just saying unless there is some evidence, we will hold off on believing until there is.

i maintain that’s a more reasonable position to take than blind faith

My stance is surely the most logical and intelligent one.

If you had a date with someone you only conversed with online and have never seen, would you not want to see them in person at the date or would you be quite happy sharing your table with an unseen man online who could very well be nothing more than AI? Would you go home saying you had a date with a wonderful man and you think you love him?

I don't have blind faith. Look into the historical accuracy of the Bible. There are over 6000 original manuscripts available compared to less than 10 of Caesars gallic war. And yet one is accepted as history and the other isn't. I think to believe that the world randomly came out of an explosion takes far more faith than to believe in a creator God.

If that is the only way, then all other faiths cannot reach God?

Why do you have to see to believe? There are so many things that we cannot see but we still believe in them. Science is making new discoveries all the time. So many amazing aspects of the world have not even been discovered yet.

Yes we know you are an atheist.

God, heaven, hell, day of judgement etc all exist.

You seem to have some issues in accepting this?

Religion is a human construct; it exists for those who want to believe, and that's absolutely fine. For those who don't believe, it doesn't, and to say that those who don't believe will still be judged and go to hell is clearly an attempt to control. Why would you say that otherwise?

Which comes back to my point; religion exists as a means to control and exploit. Before knowledge was what it is today, some people needed an explanation for 'why' we exist and how the world works, and that lead to a susbet of people filling the gap in kowledge by using, in what would be in relationships terms, coercive and controlling behaviour to herd people into following their path.

Who said they were going to hell?

Why is an attempt to control? Every person has the choice to accept or deny. There is no control.

How is religion exploiting? Most religions promote good.

Ditto.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/religion-happy-atheism-psychology-faith-belief-emotion-mental-health-christianity-a8766376.html

I’ve no issues with being an atheist. Why would I?

Are you happy with your life? You seem very negative on many of your posts.