Should the police be arresting people carrying placards that encourage the hanging, burning or mutilating of Terfs ie women ??

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I thought that there were limits to what we could advocate... and that people carrying anti-semite placards (for example) in the Pro Palestine marches were arrested?

Surely there must be some protection from the incitement of violence that is happening on these trans rights marches?

You would think so but it's misogyny innit and women count for nothing it seems

Quite

You would think so but it's misogyny innit and women count for nothing it seems

So why do so many men what to be one?

I thought sex/gender was a protected characteristic, so why aren't these placards being classed as hate speech against women ? It's appalling the double standards that are held over this kind of thing.

Apparently women don’t enjoy the same levels of protection from the police as the special people.

Same reason we’re not covered by the hate crime law but in Scotland even men dressed up as women (on a stag do for example) are specifically protected from ‘hate crimes’ .

I’ve mentioned this on threads elsewhere tonight but women in prison getting sexually harassed or assaulted by the male criminals placed in their prisons (the a high rate of being sex offenders) get punished for complaining about sexual assault.

Many in authority must really hate us.

On the plus side, at least British Transport Police have updated their policy to say that men with a female GRC can no longer strip search women. I’m not sure if any other police force have changed their policy in this to be in line with the actual law but we can be thankful for small mercies.

Oh, it's totally hate speech... but only the kind they've been getting away with for years.
And they genuinely wonder why biological women don't want them in their spaces!?

Sex is a protected characteristic in the Equality Act but Sex is not a pc in the hate crime laws. Men who identify as women have more protections than women despite being at very little risk for their safety.

It's shocking that hatred against women isn't a crime but hatred against a man pretending to be a woman is a crime.

It is wrong. GC views have been silenced and this judgment recognises that this view is not valid and not phobic or discriminatory. Threats like this show intolerance and a lack of respect

It's weird how T people are considered a minority group when other forms of subculture aren't . Like Goths, Emo, etc.

I’d love to be brave enough to take a similar placard to a women’s rally, replacing the words Terf with TW, just to see how long it takes the police to arrest me. Any predictions?

Very well said

Yeah - misogyny really does get a free pass.
There was a big anti SC ruling protest in my city today and the police were advising women wearing suffragette colours to go home as they couldn't guarantee their safety. No attempts to remove those responsible for the actual threatening behaviour and hate speech, just the females it was directed at.

My prediction is that the other women on the rally would remove it before the police got the chance to intervene. We just don’t do that shit.

Police aren’t trained to confront crazy people such as - trans and Hamas supporters. So they just let them have their temper tantrum hate speech protests
shameful

I'm waiting for Starmer to insist the police do their job and for the courts to fast track them with harsh punishments. I mean he manged to do it for the riots so surely he can manage it for this.

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Sex and gender reassignment are protected characteristics. They are not interchangeable and no slash is needed.

Nonsense. The police are highly trained to deal with the situation. Its a decision not to.

Yes they should. Also, given last summer's precedent, people like union leader Jo Grady who has posted an image of a death threat saying how proud she was of the march should be arrested and fast-tracked through the courts with the same results as then. Let's see if it's 2 tier justice again.

Goth and emo are subcultures; transgender people aren't a subculture.

Maybe I should have said trend? Zeitgeist? Movement ? Alternative lifestyle ? I don't know what the right word is. My point still stands . I don't understand why it's so terrible to keep single sex spaces ? Nothing is stopping people campaigning for gender neutral spaces .

Absolutely the police should be acting, the appalling vandalism shown yesterday is unacceptable and illustrates I hope to everyone the aggressive nature of this group. They have silenced the majority with their phobic, bullying and discriminatory allegations which is ironic as they are the ones bullying and denying others their viewpoint.

I agree, we had a misogynistic Prime Minister for three years, who also reduced police numbers. Misogyny also seems common in too many policemen.

A failing courts system does not help.

Yes. They are hate crimes.
Did you see that awful desecration of the cemetery in Lancashire, and graffiti on the church wall? The police are classing that, rightly, as a hate crime.
Yesterday's placards, chanting and threats were also hate crimes.

Yes. It was looked into only a couple of years ago and decided it was in no one's best interest, including women's, to include misogyny as a hate crime, as it was so hard to define. I am paraphrasing the statement, but that is its essence.