To be sick of dogs in cafes/restaurants etc

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Just this really
obviously not service dogs

but why all of a sudden is it ok for dogs to be allowed places where others are eating?!?

At least the inevitable demographic change will put paid to dogs being allowed in restaurants and other places.

My main issue is when people let them sit on the people seats. Was at a bar on Thursday night and someone had a dog sitting on a bar stool. So gross and unhygienic and discourteous to people like myself with allergies.

I hate it too OP, people are treating dogs like people and it is bonkers. I expect it will reach critical mass at some point and go the other way as people seek out dog free spaces.

You might find a home on the subreddit r/dogfree

Opposite where we are, more becoming dog friendly. Plenty still dog free for the dog haters. I think cafe owners aren’t daft. They know it brings in more money.

So do you.🤢

I live in a coastal area , and I am a dog owner
but the people coming on holidays can’t leave their dogs in accommodation alone .
which I understand but bloody hell you can hardly get down the high street, for dogs on leads which are not near enough to their owners, the concept of walking to heel seems a mystery to them . I walk with a crutch currently and it’s a nightmare,
just need to train the owners to bring their manners with them tbh
dont even get me started on kids running wild in good restaurants,
society has gone to hell

Not near me there aren’t. There is now literally no cafe local to me that doesn’t allow dogs.

I love dogs but can’t have one and I so enjoy the fact that I now constantly run into them while out shopping and eating. My hairdressers positively encourages them. I can’t remember the last time I went to the hairdresser without meeting at least one good dog. I’m sure this means that some people prefer to get their hair done elsewhere but they’re always busy and a good dog genuinely gives my day a boost.

It is a huge food safety issue.

I don't like anyone imposing on my quiet enjoyment of a restaurant, cafe etc. That applies to adults, children, animals and any other creatures.

Most are well behaved, but some of all groups aren't and deserve scorn.

However, I take my dogs to dog friendly pubs and restaurants as we often go out for the whole day on big walks so its sort of essential. They lay down and sleep under the table mostly. But I'm always armed with treats to settle them and occupy them anyway. Most other dogs I encounter are exactly the same.

Yawn. Just comment on one of the other threads full of people moaning about people moaning about this.

Or, you know, accept that others may have differing perspectives to yours and relax about it.

It's a bit weird saying oh just don't go there, you have a choice. I do have a choice because I live in the centre of an enormous city, but I've visited towns and villages recently where there's nowhere to get shopping or sit and eat without dogs present. My DC has a severe phobia of dogs, so it's been very difficult. I love dogs and used to have one myself, but we do need to have dog-free spaces for people with phobias, allergies, etc..

It really isn’t

Boring 💤

Unfortunately, no matter what you do or don't like, humans, and children, have rights that your dogs don't have. They are not equivalent and they are not going to be.

Only if you’re letting a dog lick your food or hands before eating

@quantim @TeenLifeMum i have found to my detriment that many dog owners simply can’t be trusted to respond rationally, proportionally, or kindly when you say you don’t like dogs so people naturally avoid doing it for fear of being verbally attacked/insulted

It really isn't. A dog friendly establishment can have a 5 star hygiene rating. I think the people that regulate these things know better than you.

Only if the dogs are in the kitchen, cooking

I think this is very true. I remember when I was younger that dog owners were mainly very settled people in their mid to late 30's or up. Some families like mine always had dogs for several generations but otherwise it was something people got when they got to a certain stage of life. Nowadays, the minute people have their own space they seem to rush out and get a dog.
In my row of 7 houses, going back 14 years there was generally only one dog owner at a time. People came and went, some had dogs and some didn't but there was still only ever one dog on the row at a time. Plus a yappy dog in the row behind.
In the last 2 years it's changed and there are now 4 houses with dogs. Most of the owners are mid 20's in their first home and/or in new relationships. Two of the non-dog owners are the older more established people on the row and one is not in any position to look after a dog.

So that's gone from 14% dog ownership to 57%.

I am not a fan. I don't like being barked at every time I go into my back garden or leave my house, and I don't like dogs in cafés etc because a) I am allergic and get asthma which antihistamines don't change, b) I don't want someone's dog on an extending lead sniffing around under my table and looking for me to stroke it.

However it's not the dogs fault, it's humans who have separation anxiety and insist on taking their dogs everywhere, and end up giving the dogs separation anxiety too. In my opinion.

Totally agree, op, and we have a dog at home, albeit a working dog. Met a friend in London recently and found the number of dogs squashed into the pub quite off putting. Even saw a couple of them on the table. Disgusting. Ate out locally last month in the ‘snug’ area of a local gastropub and was asked by waiting staff if we minded if a couple with a dog joined us. I used my words although I was caught on the hop and said I didn’t want that. Got a real glare from the dog owner.

Why should she stop going to restaurants? Restaurants are for people, not dogs.

Sadly it does happen, and all too often. As per the previous poster, it is increasingly difficult to go anywhere with dd now, as there will always be a dog there. High street (both in and out of shops, on and off lead), parks are obviously out, shopping centres too, hairdresser, cinema, theatre. We’ve seen dogs at all of them, and usually not particularly well behaved.

I completely agree with a point made earlier that it isn’t the dog that is necessarily the problem, it is the owners. And all too often, rather than the owners controlling their dog, or even keeping it close by them rather than allowing it to wander over to dd (either wandering free on on a bloody extending lead which seemingly can’t ever be retracted), I get a lecture about how it isn’t helpful to ‘allow’ my dd to be scared of dogs, and that I should have taught her better (I am actually a dog lover, always had dogs growing up, and even had dogs when dd was small, but it is no longer possible).

All the dogs that were bought ( and not trained) during the pandemic have a lifespan of around 10 to 12 years. So hopefully we have a maximum of 7 more years before they're all dead. Hopefully the people who bought them won't replace them.

So open up your own. Cafe owners can do what they like to attract the customers and ambience they want and extra revenue.

I know they do. I just don’t know why they start a new thread, rather than continue an existing conversation on an established thread.