To be sick of dogs in cafes/restaurants etc

[Dreamingi]

Just this really
obviously not service dogs

but why all of a sudden is it ok for dogs to be allowed places where others are eating?!?

But it only takes one or two not picking up for a park to become overrun with poo, especially if it's also their local park and so their daily/twice daily walk.

That's not, as another PP put it, an epidemic. That's one or two people ruining it for everyone, dog owners and non dog people alike.

Dropping into a dog friendly cafe for a drink or something to eat after/during your walk isn't treating them like an accessory. It's you and your dog making the most of your time out together.

One or two people sitting them at tables isn't all dog people being unable to be responsible. One or two people letting them run riot isn't all dog people. In much the same way as most parents wouldn't let their child run all over a cafe but some do.

What you should be irritated by is anti social people. Not just a few bad dog owners. Because the majority are absolutely fine, but one or two of any cohort of people usually aren't and they're the ones you should focus on.

Agreed. It makes it so difficult to take kids with phobias/fear of dogs and those with allergies.

i hate hearing barking out of nowhere, seeing staff pet dogs then carry food and a particularly bad experience was a constantly scratching dog kicking dander up onto our table. Even worse when you can smell them.

i don’t care if ‘he’s friendly’. He’s sniffing my daughter’s crotch and it’s vile. 🤢🤢🤢

I think this is perfectly reasonable and would help everyone.

You have got dog hairs which people may be allergic to including myself. I’ve walked
jn somewhere where there was no notice to say if it was dog friendly or not and there has been dogs there. I’ve ended up just having to leave. Also I’ve witnessed a dog pissing on the floor in a cafe and they had to ban it being dog friendly. That is disgusting. A parent can take their child to wash their hands. Well that’s what they should do anyway. It’s not really that hard to do that. Dog hairs can get everywhere no matter if they are just under the table
or not and I think places need to have notices up for people whether it’s a dog friendly place or not.

This doesn’t always work though. I went somewhere that had a sign saying Assistance Dogs only. After I’d ordered food, several dogs arrived, none wearing anything that identified them as being Assistance dogs.

Then the dog owners should have been asked to leave

It’s sad for you but cafes have to cater for what’s going to make them the most money. Having such a bad allergy that you can’t be in a cafe for a short time with a dog at a different table is quite rare. So the cafe owner will prioritise the greater number of dog owners over you as a business decision. There are always people whose health precludes them from various things. My Dd can’t eat in numerous cafes near us due to food allergies and they don’t cater for her. So she goes elsewhere.

Never even seen an errant dog hair in a cafe. The way some people talk it sounds like they’re fighting through clouds of them and their food is getting covered!

Really dogs first?

I've found most dogs OK but some really don't want to be there.

No, what happened was the opposite. The Dogs were brought treats and water bowls.
I left as I realised this was happening all the time and was the reason I'd already started sneezing.

People are just in denial. I know plenty of people that have dogs and go out to restaurants and don’t feel the need to bring their dog with them. I would Imagine it isn’t very fun for a dog to just sit under a table
and do nothing. I’m sorry but it’s just unhygienic and unfair to the dog in my eyes

Nope they should have been asked to leave. The sign said guide or assisted dogs only. I hate entitled people that think they can just bring their dogs in anywhere they like and think it’s ok. It’s unhygienic and not particularly nice for other people eating food and dogs roaming about or people that have a fear or allergy of dog or animal hairs. Also not really fair on the dog

On reflection I agree, but for me it was clear I couldn’t stay anyway., so it felt irrelevant.

And these threads attract such a range of responses , from people who dislike dogs, have fears, simply don’t want them there,

to people who maybe like dogs, but are made pretty unwell when they are near them. If bad, I have issues breathing properly. I think peanut allergy is rightfully now treated more seriously and I’d like to see the same for those with allergy to dogs.

But if you are that allergic to dog hair, you must have reactions every single day from being in proximity to people who have dogs that aren’t with them…

Don’t ever go on holiday to France, or certain other European countries then, where dogs are routinely allowed.
Anyway, there are still plenty of eateries where dogs aren’t allowed. Is it so hard to check first?

Totally agree. A clear sign whether dogs are allowed or not helps everyone.

I would love dog friendly signs. I currently have to send dh in first to check before we bring the dog in. A universally used marker would be fab. Plus outside on the signs ideally so you can tell if you're driving past.

@ImConfusedDotComHelp IF the dog owners respect the sign. So often they ignore the no dogs sign, or assume because there is no sign then Rover must be allowed in. People are wary of confrontation with dog owners as they so rarely take it well so things get allowed to slide

I hate entitled people who think businesses should be run to suit them and them only. Absolutely wrong to take dogs places they’re not allowed. Absolutely not wrong to take them places they are allowed.

Then it was a dog friendly cafe and the fault is with the cafe for an incorrect sign

Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t take my dog in a cafe with such a sign but if a cafe has dog biscuits surely they are dog friendly I wonder if they changed recently and haven’t updated the sign?

@CamillaMacauley i don’t know, but this was literally the last cafe in my area that I thought would be ok to go to.

Yes, it is. How many small independent cafes do you know with an online presence? I know very few so it's impossible to find a phone number to call ahead.

TBF people in general rarely take 'confrontation' well, whether they have a dog or not, especially when it's the staff in a place that are doing the 'confronting' because people do not like being asked (and they'll usually embellish that with words like 'told', 'ordered' and 'demanded') to do something they feel they have the right to do based in nothing other than that's what they want, giving no regard to others.

I've put confrontation in quotation marks because it's rarely a confrontation but a request to behave reasonably in a shared space and not ruin it for the other people in that space, be that bringing a dog in that shouldn't be there, or is welcome but behaving in a way that impacts others negatively, people being loud/swearing, children running around or being excessively loud - the one thing that these situations have in common is that the people causing them rarely take being asked to modify their behaviour to respect the others in that space well. And when that comes from the staff, the reaction is usually worse.

I meant checking for signs on the door.