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To be sick of dogs in cafes/restaurants etc

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Dreamingi · 19/04/2025 18:07

Just this really
obviously not service dogs

but why all of a sudden is it ok for dogs to be allowed places where others are eating?!?

OP posts:
GoodLaudanum · 19/04/2025 23:54

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 23:50

How do you notice people who do not want to be around dogs?
I mean, there has been lots of people on this thread who say they silently hate dogs, but would never say anything.

Just assume it unless they show you that they really want to meet your dog.

surreygirl1987 · 19/04/2025 23:55

GoodLaudanum · 19/04/2025 23:54

Just assume it unless they show you that they really want to meet your dog.

Yep. Very sensible.

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 23:56

surreygirl1987 · 19/04/2025 23:53

I make it pretty clear like saying 'can you please get your dog away from me/ my child'... sadly dog owners rarely listen, or say 'it's okay, he's friendly' 🤦🏼‍♀️

Well, then they are tits. My dog does not bother people. She keeps herself to herself.
I have had kids come up to her and want to pet her. The vast majority of the time, mum is there to make sure they ask properly and that both me and my dog are ok with it.
But I have had kids come up to her and try to hit her with toys.

Ishoulddomore · 19/04/2025 23:57

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 23:50

How do you notice people who do not want to be around dogs?
I mean, there has been lots of people on this thread who say they silently hate dogs, but would never say anything.

people that like your dog tend to come and say hello to them. If they don’t, don’t assume they do. Pretty simple really. I love dogs, but I’ll never approach one before I have asked the owner if it’s ok to do so. People that don’t want to be near them tend to stay away,

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 23:58

GoodLaudanum · 19/04/2025 23:54

Just assume it unless they show you that they really want to meet your dog.

I do that anyway. My dog does not impose on other people.

Pieceofpurplesky · 20/04/2025 00:05

I live in the country where dogs are part of the furniture. It’s not a problem unless overly stinking. What I dislike is when dogs arrive with their owners in cars - for an evening out. I was out for Sunday lunch recently when a family arrived via car with two dogs who grizzled
throughout. Walking in the country and stopping is fine. Why bring them deliberately for a meal.
A local food market has had to ask for dogs to be kept from feeding at the tables 🤢

Ishoulddomore · 20/04/2025 00:05

surreygirl1987 · 19/04/2025 23:53

I make it pretty clear like saying 'can you please get your dog away from me/ my child'... sadly dog owners rarely listen, or say 'it's okay, he's friendly' 🤦🏼‍♀️

totally agree with you, you would never have to say this to me. I’d never let my dog approach anyone, if someone asked can I stroke him/say hello then that’s different. It’s the same with other dogs, people say it’s ok my dog just wants to be friends, well maybe my dog doesn’t! Maybe my dog if let loose will just attack your dog in fear

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/04/2025 00:06

Pieceofpurplesky · 20/04/2025 00:05

I live in the country where dogs are part of the furniture. It’s not a problem unless overly stinking. What I dislike is when dogs arrive with their owners in cars - for an evening out. I was out for Sunday lunch recently when a family arrived via car with two dogs who grizzled
throughout. Walking in the country and stopping is fine. Why bring them deliberately for a meal.
A local food market has had to ask for dogs to be kept from feeding at the tables 🤢

They could have been on holiday and not allowed to leave their dogs in the accommodation.

Ishoulddomore · 20/04/2025 00:08

YeOldeGreyhound · 19/04/2025 23:56

Well, then they are tits. My dog does not bother people. She keeps herself to herself.
I have had kids come up to her and want to pet her. The vast majority of the time, mum is there to make sure they ask properly and that both me and my dog are ok with it.
But I have had kids come up to her and try to hit her with toys.

The poster doesn’t have a problem with good dog owners like you

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/04/2025 00:11

Ishoulddomore · 20/04/2025 00:08

The poster doesn’t have a problem with good dog owners like you

And plenty of people on this thread being annoyed by a well behaved dog being in the same room as them too.

HangingOver · 20/04/2025 00:24

Tbh if you want your nice little cafés to be there when you're on holiday, plenty of them are only kept open by dog walkers out of season.

KeepDancing1 · 20/04/2025 00:57

BatchCookBabe · 19/04/2025 21:19

Most shops and stores (and eateries) don't allow dogs in. (Apart from assistance dogs obvs.)

I find it really hard to believe that some people are seeing multiple dogs in most shops and eateries they go in! Where on earth do these people live? Confused

Edited

Bath. Dogs absolutely everywhere! Hollister is quite a dark shop - the last thing I expected when browsing through the PJs recently was to trip over a dachshund.

YeOldeGreyhound · 20/04/2025 01:01

KeepDancing1 · 20/04/2025 00:57

Bath. Dogs absolutely everywhere! Hollister is quite a dark shop - the last thing I expected when browsing through the PJs recently was to trip over a dachshund.

Bath is just generally full of tourists anyway. I like the place but hate the people.

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/04/2025 01:02

See posters protesting they really cannot believe there are lots of dogs in lots of places. Edinburgh, Bath, London are some of the cities posters are citing having lots of dogs in retail & restaurant. Evidently there are lots of dogs in retail & restaurants

Lampzade · 20/04/2025 03:46

Many years ago I visited Milan and was shocked by the number of dogs allowed in restaurants .I actually found it off putting.
I hoped that this trend would not find its way to the UK, but alas, it has now become the norm in many eating establishments .
Some dog owners have such a sense of entitlement when it comes to their dogs and couldn’t give a hoot that their dogs are making others uncomfortable .
Btw , I say this as someone who likes dogs

SapporoBaby · 20/04/2025 03:53

Well sadly society has made it so it’s no longer safe to tie the dog outside when you nip into the post office or for a coffee. Maybe if the country wasn’t full of thieves and crime then we could happily pop them outside.

Menobaby79 · 20/04/2025 04:18

Screamingabdabz · 19/04/2025 18:59

Morons who compare children to animals just aren’t worth listening to.

I agree with you op. When I was growing up people left dogs at home - there is no reason they have to be in shops and cafes, it’s disgusting. Smell, noise, allergies, dog hair, dog slobber and worse…Yuck.

This. I also have a dog and he stays at home where he belongs, not in an eating establishment being inflicted on others. 🤢 My child comes with me, at 8 years old he isn't allowed to be home alone by law and he's perfectly well behaved, doesn't drool everywhere or hang around strangers eyeing up their food.

Stayperfect · 20/04/2025 06:31

Zone2NorthLondon · 20/04/2025 01:02

See posters protesting they really cannot believe there are lots of dogs in lots of places. Edinburgh, Bath, London are some of the cities posters are citing having lots of dogs in retail & restaurant. Evidently there are lots of dogs in retail & restaurants

I’ve recently been to Edinburgh with a dog. There are some dog friendly cafes but it’s by no means everywhere and ditto shops. I know because I researched where we could go before visiting.

Stayperfect · 20/04/2025 06:36

Menobaby79 · 20/04/2025 04:18

This. I also have a dog and he stays at home where he belongs, not in an eating establishment being inflicted on others. 🤢 My child comes with me, at 8 years old he isn't allowed to be home alone by law and he's perfectly well behaved, doesn't drool everywhere or hang around strangers eyeing up their food.

Dogs don’t drool everywhere or hang around strangers( don’t think my dog drools at all).They’re on leads under tables that their owners are eating at. Children in restaurants however are more often than not far more troublesome and noisy.

I’d prefer restaurants to be child free you’d prefer dog free. Thankfully it’s down to the owner and their eye for business. Don’t like it then go to the huge number of dog free places available. I avoid restaurants and cafes likely to be full of children, there are other options 🤷‍♀️

CamillaMacauley · 20/04/2025 06:45

I take my dog to dog friendly cafes, if she’s allowed then she’s allowed. She’s extremely well behaved and sits quietly under the table. Shes also non shedding so doesn’t leave hair anywhere. She seems quite happy in cafes, she likes people watching and watching other dogs. She stays on the floor so I don’t see how that’s unhygienic. Peoples shoes are on the floor, the floor isn’t hygienic with or without dogs!

i don’t take her out to the shops as such but if we’re on holiday somewhere like the Lake District and we go to Keswick then yes she will come in the shops with me. She loves Fishers for some reason and gets crazy excited when we walk up the road to it, might be the biscuits behind the counter 😁. So she’s perfectly happy tootling round the shops.

I was once sat with her in Lingholm kitchen which is as dog friendly a cafe as you can get, biscuits and dog towels are provided. I was on my own at a small table and she was minding her own business snoozing on the floor but she was actually under the chair on the right hand side of my table (but still under my table and chairs). Then there was a clear gap and then the next table where a couple were sitting. The woman had her back to us. The man then got up, walked up to me and hissed in my ear to remove my dog from near his wife. 😁. Hilarious. I did tell him he was being unbelievably rude, my dog wasn’t doing anything and if his wife had a problem with dogs then maybe don’t come to the most dog friendly cafe in the area. Bloody idiots. I did a thread on here at the time with photos of my dog behaving herself under the chair and showing the gap between tables and everyone agreed they were being unreasonable 👍. If he’d asked nicer and said hey, my wife doesn’t like dogs, any chance you could put your dog under the chair the other side of the table i wouldn’t have minded. Was his rude attitude I had an issue with.

BCBird · 20/04/2025 06:49

Rarely eat out. The other day was in Boots and saw someone walk past with their dog- why? Surely there is a chance of floor being used as a toilet?

IpsyUpsyDaisyDoos · 20/04/2025 06:50

GoodLaudanum · 19/04/2025 21:30

I don't think people hate dogs - I think it just become a bit crazy just how many dogs are in restaurants nowadays.
10 years ago there would be the odd dog - now every other table has one.

Didn't ever think I'd need to search out special places that did not host dogs in order to not be surrounded by them.

I honestly don't mind the odd pooch. Bit it's an epidemic out there!

It's not an epidemic because you went to Cornwall and three dogs were in your dog friendly accommodation.

Cornwall is the perfect place to go on holiday if you want/need to take your dog. A bit like the Lakes. There's amazing walking, most attractions are outdoors and a large amount of the people who live in those areas will be dog people too so they'll be welcoming.

Since COVID more people stay in the UK for their holidays. Because of both the cost of living and the realisation that actually, the UK is beautiful. And because it sparked more WFH ability more people got dogs, because they can be at home with one and because they're excellent company.

It's not an epidemic. You just went somewhere that welcomes dogs and were surprised there was dogs...

CamillaMacauley · 20/04/2025 06:53

M777 · 19/04/2025 23:05

My DC has an awful dog allergy. Cats aren’t great too. We are finding it harder and harder to go to any pub or restaurant, particularly by the sea, without animals nearby or fur and dander in the air. They take extra strong prescribed antihistamines, sometimes two varieties at once. Still often come out in hives. I would welcome a few places that are dog free that we could go to. We now try to sit outside, and don’t go out in bad weather.

That’s a real shame for you. I guess from a cafe owners pov though when they’re trying to keep afloat in these tough cost of living times being dog friendly will increase their customers more than it will decrease their customers. Might depend on the area but certainly true in the rural place where I live.

One of the few non dog friendly cafes has now started allowing dogs and the owner told me it’s made a big positive difference to their customer numbers. She was previously worried about being able to keep going and now she’s more positive.

But I get that it’s bad for the small number of people with such a severe allergy. But if it’s allowing dogs in or going bust then I can see why it happens.

Irish24 · 20/04/2025 07:13

ToKittyornottoKitty · 19/04/2025 18:09

Not really all of a sudden is it. Stop going to restaurants if you don’t like it.

Quite a cold response. Not everyone likes dogs. I particularly am not a fan of being in restaurants and seeing a dog there. I find it actually quite cruel on the dog with all the food about. Either leave the dog with a sitter, outside the place or don’t bring the dog.

Irish24 · 20/04/2025 07:17

TennesseeStella · 19/04/2025 18:25

YANBU. There's no need for a dog to be in a cafe. Or a charity shop, or a gift shop, or the Co-op which are all places I have encountered dogs recently thanks to their entitled idiotic owners.

I agree. It’s getting a bit ridiculous. Surely your dog doesn’t need to go absolutely everywhere with you. I’ve witnessed a dog peeing in a cafe before which is absolutely disgusting when you’re eating/drinking. Dogs need to start being treated like actual animals not humans

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