TRAs deface Millicent Fawcett statue

[Peony1897]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/19/transgender-activists-deface-millicent-fawcett-statue/

How dare they.

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g absolutely. How narrow minded just to ignore someone because of their political party. People from all the main parties talk sense on some things, and nonsense on others! To shut out Kemi Badenoch just because she's a Tory is so limiting and closed minded.

Reportedly, 20+ unions organised yesterday’s protests. You may need to reconsider your claim about whether men or women hold greater power and just who is being supported here.

Have not been able to RTFT, but I did read yesterday that it was the big unions helping organise these protests.

Why?? Whatever reason is there for the unions to get involved so determinedly, on the Easter weekend? Workers with the characteristic of gender reassignment can claim protection from employment discrimination already. They can't be fired, harassed, held back etc because of who they are. Apparently that is simply not enough, and the unions want them to be able to go into women's spaces and sex-specific professions and short lists and every goddam thing.

What similar protest have the unions organised recently (ever) for the benefit of women's workplace provision, with thousands of attendees?

Women don't matter. Men who claim womanhood-- they matter.

Oh, I see it has been mentioned! I am back on page 7 still :)

How long do you think it took women to get public toilets?

Ah yes the “Urinary Leash”, well worth a google.

Now of course repurposed by the ever inventive trans community as “Unleash the Urine” because the restrictions placed on women by their physical needs to piss and deal with menstruation in safe places isn’t an issue that any transwoman has ever understood.

And now women who are same sex attracted are legally protected on that basis.

Contrary to popular TRA belief, biology in itself isn't reductive.

CleverButScatty

I don't think anyone would disagree that transpeople need protection - just like anyone and everyone else.

By what protection do you think they have lost?

No one is going to he forced to perform masculinity/femininity if they don't want to.

No organisations are going to be forced or required to ban transpeople if they don't want to.

All it means is that transpeople are not the opposite sex and don't need to be treated as such for legal purposes.

It means that if someone wants to run a women's festival, or operate a women's dating app or hold a women's only event, they can. If you want a female HCP for your elderly mother's, disabled daughter's, your own medical treatment or intimate care, you can have it. And, if you don't care, you can also have a transwoman perform those services. It just means that, going forwards, men with a fetish or angry men who don't like to be told no, won't be able to infiltrate and, if they try to take women to court over it, they'll lose because its OK and legal for women to centre women at times when they feel its appropriate or necessary to do so. As it always was.

Transpeople have the same legal protections they always had. It's just now been clarified that they are not women. And we all knew that anyway.

Really good point as there has been zero union support in the aforementioned employment tribunals. All the structural and financial support has been targeted against women.

Sunday morning in bed surfing the Internet, apparently mumsnet is a hotbed of fundamentalism and radicalisation. Goodness who knew women were so dangerous. Mind you while statues were being defaced and public pissing protests were going on around London yesterday I was lying on my sofa reading a book.

Excellent point.

Add it to the bingo card over on the FWR board!

The trans movement proves that men hold vastly more power than women and that many educated powerful women facilitate male power grabs and enjoy a chance to smirk at other women.

Given there were allegedly 20k people there who were in support of ... emmm... well, something [I'm not convinced many of them really knew what they were there for, tbh, but let's let that pass], how could one far right person have got away with climbing up on that statue and writing that slogan and not been challenged?

Ah of course getting your penis out and peeing in the street, they're really showing how womanly they are with that one

It really does.

How can you possibly think that women have more societal power than trans people?

If that were the case, trans people's needs would not have been prioritised over women's needs in the way that they have.

Women would have just said "no" and the matter would have been closed.

When grandmothers were getting punched in the face by men and admonished by judges for misgendering, the gig was up. Women are witches and fascist ones at that. If you want to punch, decapitate, piss over the head of one, by god, you are on the Right Side of History!

Allegedly some of the social media messages and union comms said the organised events were to protest ‘anti-trans legislation that parliament was passing’.

I’ve not seen them but the level of purposeful confusion feels on target for TRSOH.

I have.

Many many times. Over many years.

I don't owe you the labour of doing so here.

Exactly.

Politicians have publicly made themselves look like utter fools by pretending "what is a woman?" is a difficult question to answer.

When theyre staring at their shoes, umming and ahhing and weighing up what is the right thing to do - speak the truth or appease a reportedly very small number of men and look like idiots, and then opting to pretend they don't know the answer, that's not because 'women have all the power' 🙄

Bingo!

This one has been covered many many times about why this comparison is a Trojan horse and offensive.

Not least because if you replace sex with gender in law in anyway, you remove legal homosexual protections because being homosexual is a sexual attraction based on .... Wait for it .... Biological sex!

As the Supreme Court judgment acknowledged.

The arguments against homosexuality were generally more nuanced than that, if mostly hypocritical and wrong. ‘Biology’ wasn’t normally one of them. ‘Unnatural’ was the term more often used, though of course homosexuality is not at all ‘unnatural’ either in the human or the wider animal world.

If you can't be bothered just don't post anything?

A third and even fourth space is exactly what Stonewall should have been campaigning for……All This Time!

A space for them. All of their own as part of the Equalities Act.

Instead all Stonewall has done is intimidate everybody from rape crisis centres, Marks and Spencer’s to the nhs and every business in the land to think Trans people can use everyone else’s spaces …….‘ in a space they feel most comfortable’….

So Womens Spaces . Womens sports. Womens rights. Womens freedom of speech
Taken away at the alter of Stonewall and the Trans Movement.

How is that Be Kind

Stonewall have had long enough to campaign for their own rights like the brave women of the past have done. Like the Brave Women of today are still trying to do !

They have NO spaces if their own because they didn’t want their own spaces they wanted ours !