TRAs deface Millicent Fawcett statue

[Peony1897]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/19/transgender-activists-deface-millicent-fawcett-statue/

How dare they.

I’m pretty sure those people would abuse safe spaces if they’re prepared to behave like that in public. They’re pissing in the street ffs, what mental gymnastics do you have to go through to not condemn that?!

If you read my post I said safe spaces need to be protected.

People are jumping in my because I have attempted to recognise the complexities of the issue.

To claim it pretend otherwise is ignorant.

On Mumsnet it is only ok to shout into the echo chamber about the trans community apparently...

We are angry. But we don’t go around threatening to kill and rape people.

We write letters, contribute to crowdfunders and go to court.

Woman isn't a complete word? There has to be some sort of conditioning prefix?
Ok, as you say, use the term you want.

You’ll have to post a link to where women are pissing on stuff, carrying placards threatening men with the guillotine or nooses, or defacing statues.

@Diverze I have an adult ftm.
She would no more go on a march than stick pins in her eyes. Much to the disgust of the trans activists at her University including one nutter of a professor who has written about trans children.

There is no change in the law and she knows it after I made her listen to the judgement. My family are solicitors and she is studying for a scientific career. She's clever enough to see hysteria.

You say your child is just going about their business and hasn't pushed into females spaces. Mine doesn't either. Most trans people don't.
I missed the deleted comment but that person is not representive of most women. I've received only one nasty response to my daughter and tbh that ex friend is an old bat anyway.

You know very well that all new buildings are including third spaces. Britain is trying to catch up. What was needed was the ability to stop men using the trans community to bully and push into women's hard faught for rights.
Ordinary women haven't even had the vote for 100 years.
Stonewall has a lot to answer for. It has caused the divisions by making itself the authority on LGBT matters. It's not and remember it's a male dominated cash making organisation. Nothing new there!

All trans people are different, what we don't need is the male violence and intimindation some refuse to give up when they put on their frocks.
Your DC has nothing to fear from women.

But everyone at that March had the extremist position that women are not allowed male free spaces when getting undressed, when in accommodation women, when in refugees, when in prisons, when in sports including combat sports, when in sexual abuse recovery services. Everyone on that March feels lesbians are not allowed freedom of association lesbians.

You, and even those arguing against you, are overly fixated on what placards were held, or whether someone got punched, and ignoring the main fact that being on that protest was calling for women to be put at harm to suit men. And that is not peaceful thing to do.

Yeah, there’s no reason for us to comment of course. Get back in your box women, we want to have a mantrum and wave threatening placards in Trafalgar Square. Still, these men are just showing their true manly impulses for all to see. Such an own goal.

Here you go:

More than 70 per cent of transgender prisoners are in for sex offences or violent crimes

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/24/government-figures-70-per-cent-of-transgender-prisoners-are/

https://archive.ph/Bl7lH

Echo chamber...yawn...we've heard it all before

Lots of women being disgusted by vile behaviour isn't an echo chamber, it's a rational response!

I was there in London yesterday. It was a jubilant but determined atmosphere, with thousands of peaceful people, showing thousands of messages of support and love for the community which has always loved me. A few signs which shouldn't have been there don't take away from that. That's not what the day was about. I'm impressed so many people managed to organise at such short notice. Also very pleased to see so many allies (including me). Not a trans person here, just a proud friend and sister.

Can't seem to get myself bent out of shape over a bit of graffiti, which is easily washed off - especially seen as most of it was chalk!

The significant word is, of course, bitch.
Women can't have a voice, can't challenge, can't speak out, can't fight for justice.
We just bitch.

Of those 20k how many behaved like that? Those who are genuine might well have been pissed off with them (no pun intended).

There are causes that I am strongly in agreement with (such as just stop oil's environmental concerns) where I am utterly frustrated at their method of protesting because it alienates people from listening to the argument.

You are describing anyone who is trans as one homogeneous group incapable of independent thought. That's never good, and is where racism, sexism, homophobia etc comes from.

Dou you not think it's sarcasm at people insisting they are men?

MtF transitioners were over 6 times more likely to be convicted of an offence than female comparators and 18 times more likely to be convicted of a violent offence. The group had no statistically significant differences from other natal males, for convictions in general or for violent offending.

From a committee's.parliament.uk pdf on rates of offending.

Trans men are female so you've asked the wrong question, I think.

I don't have time to look for it now but the office of national statistics previously released evidence stating that convictions for sexual crimes against women are more prevalent in the trans prison population than the general male prison population.

Although that could he because of the numbers of men who claimed to be trans after after arrest to be placed in the female estate.

What? I think it's a word that's been used to shut women up.

Kemi Badenoch, the Conservative leader, told The Telegraph: “This is a reminder that the Supreme Court ruling is not the end of the story. The trans activist fanatics who have threatened and intimidated the women and men who disagree with them will not give up.

I didn't realise that trans rights people were so extreme. It's an eye opener. They are acting like violent men because they cannot get their own way.

That reads to be that once men transition it doesn't affect their rates of committing crime.

Btw I also googled it and that is the AI answer that appears at the top not a report that can be referred to.

so sad to see the statues covered in graffiti. Awful.

It’s not about trans identities, it’s about men. All men are kept out of women’s spaces. You don’t get in because you have an exception for being nice.

All men are kept out to protect women’s dignity and privacy ( my male colleagues is lovely but I still don’t want him seeing my naked arse).
All men are kept out so the bad men are kept out too.

You lost me at Kemi Badenoch says!

“Safe spaces” is a meaningless phrase. Did you mean single sex spaces?

The Supreme Court has dealt with the so-called “complexities”.

It is insulting to infer that the women on here are ignorant. We have been debating this issue for many years. We are educated, intelligent and often very highly qualified women who really know our stuff. We know far more about it than you, media pundits, bandwagon-jumping celebrities and many legal and medical professionals who should know better.

Mumsnet was nearly put out of business by targeted attacks from transactivists. It is the only place where women could discuss these things. It is not an echo chamber, because people like you can come here and say anything you like. However, if what you say is untrue, uninformed, irrational or just plain stupid, we will tell you so.

And in fact 'safe spaces' is a deliberate obfuscation by politicians and activists to avoid the actuality of the single sex exemptions as detailed in the EQA 2010.

For those saying 'well third spaces is the debate now', can you imagine how far we have been with that if lobbying groups such as Stonewall had not spent the last 10 years at least deliberately misadvising the law? And if TRA's had focused on that rather than bellowing mantras and no debate and shutting down women?

But they've never wanted to. They have wanted to force women to capitulate entirely. And because they've been thwarted in that, they've lost control of the thin veneer of surface reasonableness to show the angry women haters underneath.

Because the sheer hatred of women is beneath all this. The support humans dared to protest against men. That is what it comes down to.

No, that examines the crimes of those in prison.
Most will never be in prison. Just like most bio men and women.

An AI overview isn't available for that question.

It's a downloadable pdf.