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14 year old not invited to stepsister’s wedding

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Ombreofmyself · 18/04/2025 15:03

Stepdaughter is getting married. My husband is paying for everything but dress and flowers.

Our six year old and nine year old are in the wedding, but that’s another story. They are half sisters to the bride.

My 14 year old, step sister to the bride isn’t invited.

Made husband clarify with her. Stepdaughter confirmed so I am not going.

Husband is upset but seems completely incapable of thinking rationally and insisting on her coming but then says why can’t she go to her Dad’s. He should insist as he is paying.

OP posts:
mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:06

CopperWhite · 18/04/2025 19:41

@Orwellsunshine
The absence of her step mother, however, would be highly noticeable and would suggest their relationship is far more fraught than it actually is. She could avoid all this by just inviting her step sister. Her father needs to explain this to her.

Yes, their absence might be noticeable and maybe the bride is ok with that at her wedding. Sometimes step children forced into blended situations get fed up with playing happy families just for show. Maybe she’s taking the opportunity, on the one occasion where she is in charge, just to have the family she considers closest to her without having to accommodate others.

It is incredibly small minded to complain that the bride is mean without considering the position she has been forced into and how she might feel about that. She owes the OP nothing.

The bride is the extremely small-minded one and I hope this comes back to bite her nasty arse.

Alicehatter · 18/04/2025 23:06

NiceoneSonny · 18/04/2025 22:48

OP's eldest daughter would have been 4 when OP got together with her H. What exactly do you expect a 4 year old to have done in the circumstances to ingratiate herself to her step-sister? If they have no relationship, I rather think the adult step sister should be taking on the bulk of the responsibility for failing to try to form one, especially once subsequent siblings (whom she apparently dotes upon) came along who now tie her forever to her step sister.

Point well made 👏
She isn't just some 14yo non related family member, she is a child who has been around for 10 years and who I assume has been at other family events with SD over that time. It's callous to leave her out when her younger siblings will be going.
I agree they're not a 'blended family' given that SD was an adult when OP came along, but the eldest of the younger 2 is 9(?) So the 14yo was still only a tiny 5yo that SD has chosen to ignore whilst 'doting' on the new baby!
Call me a 'MN viper' for saying it, but the SD is a twat! * *

SmellyNelliey · 18/04/2025 23:08

I'm sorry OP I'd be the awful step mother in this case and non of my children would be attending.
I'd book us a break away just the 4 of us and withdraw any form of relationship with bridezilla.
Let it be known to DH that you won't be making any effort in the future no baby sitting,no christmas hosting or gifts and to keep mine and the children's names of the wedding card.

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ragandbonewoman · 18/04/2025 23:12

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 22:54

But why? I am not trying to be difficult. I just genuinely don't understand. What precisely do you expect him to do? He has already asked her and she said no? Can he force her? How? Would your expectation be that he disowns her? What kind of dad would he be if he did that? I can't ever imagine not attending my childrens' wedding or disowning them for any tangible reason. As disappointed as OP must be, surely she must see that a 29 year old woman has the right to choose her guest list, as unpalatable as it may seem.

If, as you keep saying, you genuinely don’t understand what the issue is with a fourteen year old who has been in the family for ten years, being completely excluded from this family event, then you will “genuinely” never understand, and no amount of explanation from strangers on the internet is going to help you resolve your faux wide eyed incredulity, because you simply lack empathy. Hope that helps.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:13

YourWaryOP · 18/04/2025 20:32

Her daughter isn't family though! My mother remarried when I was an adult, I've never even met her husband's son though technically he's my step brother. It's stupid. You don't get to decide an adult woman consider your child family. She's nothing to her and she's always been polite. She wants the people she cares about at her wedding.

Presumably your 'step brother' is an adult. We're talking about a child here.

The situations are completely different.

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 23:16

Given the lack of invitation to OP's daughter, I struggle to believe that B2B would really care or ever want her step mother to babysit her future children. She has a mother, a father, and potentially in-laws. I'm sure she will be just fine.
If the younger two already know that they are invited as flower girls then they might be disappointed to have that taken away
Especially if they have a good relationship with their eldest half-sister.

NiceoneSonny · 18/04/2025 23:17

CatherinedeBourgh · 18/04/2025 22:57

If they have no relationship, I rather think the adult step sister should be taking on the bulk of the responsibility for failing to try to form one, especially once subsequent siblings (whom she apparently dotes upon) came along who now tie her forever to her step sister.

But why would an adult want a relationship with a 4 year old? When I was 16 my dad got together with a woman who had 3 children, aged between 2 and 7. I saw them around, once went on holiday with them, but had no relationship with them and no interest in one. When my dad's relationship ended, I never saw them again.

And having half siblings in common doesn't tie you to anyone. I haven't even met my half brother's sisters. I don't even know their names.

Your dysfunctional family dynamic and lack of interest in other human beings - small children who are not in the circumstances they are in through any control or will of their own - is not a shining beacon in how to make a happy blended family. So I'm not sure what you want me to say. That an 18 year old should try to exercise some compassion and show some friendship towards a small child, if for no other reason than to develop a closer relationship with her father in his new circumstances, with a woman and pre schooler who have had nothing to do with any of the past unpleasantness the SD may have experienced? I'm sure any such suggestion to exercise some forward thinking and maturity would fall on deaf ears for the likes of the OP's SD. I'm so happy my children have always shown a much more inclusive and kind attitude towards younger children in their extended family, even ones who have come and gone out of their lives.

DRose3 · 18/04/2025 23:17

Adults excluding adults, okay. Adults excluding children, not okay.

I can’t imagine my adult child would be intentionally unkind like that, but neither would I. I get she’s not family, but I don’t understand why she would do this. By that argument, stepmother shouldn’t go either.

Unpalatable is her rude manners, and lack of consideration for her father’s family. Kindness costs nothing.

He can speak to her again and say it would be unkind not to invite stepsister, and she won’t understand, and think you as an adult don’t like her (a child). I’d like you to reconsider, and invite her to keep the peace in the family please. And consider the conversation we would have to have with stepsister re why she isn’t invited.

If she still says no, fine but then father should attend solo. I would be hugely disappointed, and hurt if my child did this.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:18

Ombreofmyself · 18/04/2025 20:53

I was most definitely not the other woman. My husband was divorced ten years before I met him, I met his daughter when she was 18/19, the first Christmas after she began university.

People have said my husband didn’t challenge her. He did.

She said they weren’t really related. When she was told I wouldn’t go without her she said my daughter obviously had another family.

I have never had a conversation with my husband about withdrawing money or him insisting on my daughter being invited but he brought up the insistence bit. He said the message to his daughter would become that my daughter was on a par with his daughter on her own wedding day.

If he withdrew funds I doubt his relationship with his daughter would recover.

He is genuinely devastated.

I have not told my daughter because I was hoping SD would change her mind.

My youngest children aren’t stupid. They know the two older ones aren’t related to each other. Obviously the truth might come out when they’re older but I intend to just say for now that only SD’s family are going to wedding. I doubt they will blame or exclude SD.

He's talking shit and I wouldn't let that go!

Surely she is inviting other people she's not "related" to? And technically, she is "related" to her step-sister, just not by blood!

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 23:19

ragandbonewoman · 18/04/2025 23:12

If, as you keep saying, you genuinely don’t understand what the issue is with a fourteen year old who has been in the family for ten years, being completely excluded from this family event, then you will “genuinely” never understand, and no amount of explanation from strangers on the internet is going to help you resolve your faux wide eyed incredulity, because you simply lack empathy. Hope that helps.

Ok. But can someone please answer the question though? What do you expect this man to actually do? Is it that you expect him to abandon his daughter? Do you think that is a reasonable ask?

OKYay · 18/04/2025 23:22

Jasmin71 · 18/04/2025 16:47

Well!

You WILL NOT be babysitting for this eldest selfish daughter of your DH's if she decides to have her own children in the future.

Don't go to the wedding, go and take your 14 year old on an amazing trip away for the weekend. And, drop your DH right in the shit with childcare for your youngest for at least 2 nights.

Yep! I'd be booking a lovely weekend away with my DD. I'd be leaving the day before the wedding and coming back the day after the wedding.

outerspacepotato · 18/04/2025 23:23

MrsPeterHarris · 18/04/2025 22:47

To leave 1 child out when the whole rest of her family are going - you can’t see the harm that will cause?

No harm. They're not close. There's a generational age gap as well as the fact that the families didn't blend, they are separate.

EnidSpyton · 18/04/2025 23:23

@CatherinedeBourgh I couldn’t agree more.

I can’t understand the ridiculousness of so many people on here. They’d leave their husband over this? Seriously?!

The bride was 19 when the OP and her dad got together. Her step sister was 4.

She has no relationship with her. She is the child of a woman she has nothing but a cordial relationship with.

It’s her wedding day and she can do whatever she wants. Her father paying for the wedding has got absolutely nothing to do with whether the stepdaughter attends or not. The father’s money shouldn’t come with strings attached.

Yes it would be polite and kind to invite the stepsister and for the sake of family harmony it would have been a nice gesture and the right thing to do. However, the bride has chosen not to for her own reasons - and we don’t know her version of the history with the OP as a stepmum
and her relationship with her father - to be able to judge why she has made that choice. I wouldn’t do it - but I’m not the bride and I haven’t lived her life. She may well have very valid reasons. I’d love to hear her side of the story.

It’s important to keep this in perspective and not make it into something bigger than it is. The younger stepsister not being invited to the wedding of a girl she has no real relationship with is not going to ruin her life. It’s not exactly going to be a memory of a lifetime to go to the wedding of her stepsister she never sees. She certainly doesn’t need to be taken on some all singing all dancing revenge trip to Disney on her stepdad’s money to prove that she’s still a valuable member of the family, ffs. What she needs is to have it explained to her that older stepsister is getting married and that older stepsister hasn’t invited the younger stepsister as they didn’t grow up together and weddings are usually only for very close family and friends - but that doesn’t mean that she’s not loved and valued, it’s just how weddings work sometimes.

The 14 year old is only going to feel it as a snub if she’s told it’s a snub by her mother.

Lorlorlorikeet · 18/04/2025 23:25

PrincessofWells · 18/04/2025 17:42

I agree, it's not just uncalled for it's misogynist language.

Of course it is. That poster is venting some serious spleen about her own grim life it seems. She’s gone out of her way to be unpleasant to the OP.

ragandbonewoman · 18/04/2025 23:27

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 23:19

Ok. But can someone please answer the question though? What do you expect this man to actually do? Is it that you expect him to abandon his daughter? Do you think that is a reasonable ask?

What would you expect him to do if either the six year old or nine year old were not invited. Because that was the wish of the bride, and it may be “unpalatable” but it is her choice and must be respected.

That is what I think he should do.

Tryinghardtobefair · 18/04/2025 23:27

I think your Stepdaughter is being petty, and it IS incredibly hurtful to your DD. Your husband is in a difficult position because he SHOULD be sticking up for DD more... But stepdaughter is 29 so he's limited in what he can do and say really.

Starting from now, I would match your Stepdaughters energy. Take DD on a weekend away spanning across the day before, day of and day after the wedding. That will shield her from most of the excitement.

Leave your husband to parent the younger two girls for the weekend. If he objects because it will interfere with his duties as father of the bride, just remind him that your stepdaughter chose to only have her blood siblings there and he's unwilling/unable to make a stand or explain the consequences to your Stepdaughter. Explain that they are both within their rights to take that stance, but they have to accept that the natural consequence of that is that you have to protect YOUR other biological child and that means removing yourself from all aspects of the wedding, including being there as childcare.

Alicehatter · 18/04/2025 23:27

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 23:19

Ok. But can someone please answer the question though? What do you expect this man to actually do? Is it that you expect him to abandon his daughter? Do you think that is a reasonable ask?

If this were me, no I wouldn't expect him to abandon his daughter - I'd actually lose respect for him if he did! BUT, I would expect him to appreciate the situation 'his' daughter has caused by excluding 1 of my 3 of my children, and I'd probably expect him to say the youndger 2 can't go either. That's just how I'd feel.

MrsPeterHarris · 18/04/2025 23:27

We’ll have to agree to disagree @outerspacepotato as it’s so hurtful towards the 14 year old that I fully see harm will be done, along with harm to the relationship between Op & her DH! All for the sake of having a 14 year old girl attend the wedding where her sisters are flower girls (who the B2B wouldn’t even be paying for).

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 23:27

I think many people would be disappointed. And there is so much drama and fall-out from her decision. But so many posters have suggested that it is his fault/ he needs to do more to convince her/ this is worth divorcing over. She may well still say no. I truly hope he doesn't abandon her, especially if he wasn't especially present or supportive in her childhood. The latter is my interpretation of something OP wrote in a follow-up post.

EnidSpyton · 18/04/2025 23:28

Lorlorlorikeet · 18/04/2025 23:25

Of course it is. That poster is venting some serious spleen about her own grim life it seems. She’s gone out of her way to be unpleasant to the OP.

Nope. My parents have been happily married for 50 years. I don’t have any stepparents or step or half siblings. No spleen or grimness here.

I’m just someone who appreciates that there are always two sides to every story.

I also don’t see weddings as that big a deal, to be honest. Not being invited to one really wouldn’t bother me in the slightest.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:29

CatherinedeBourgh · 18/04/2025 22:37

Genuine question, why?

When you are an adult your affections revolve around the relationships you make yourself, not the ones your parents make.

Isn't that just growing up? Wouldn't it be unhealthy to be so enmeshed with your parents that their new relationships are important to you?

This is a child, not an adult!

Volpini · 18/04/2025 23:29

I am a child of an absent father who is remarried and I have always been an afterthought, both before and after his remarriage. To be clear, my parents were long divorced before my father met his wife/remarried. My relationship with my dad is beyond repair now (and I am substantially older than the stepdaughter in question.) That said, at the time of my marriage we were still speaking and I would never have dreamed my dad’s wife not attending my wedding - even though my dad did actually say “well, of course i will come without Xxxxx” but OF COURSE she came. Because my issues are with my dad and not her. My father and his wife are very wealthy but he didn’t cover the full cost of our wedding and I didn’t expect him to. He gave a small contribution for which we were grateful and he uncharacteristically politely asked if we could invite a couple of his distant family members. I had only met them once and our wedding was not huge but it was not a huge deal to invite them. So, as a “wronged child” who did and does still feel I am owed, I never once considered trying to make a point on my wedding day. As a „wronged child“ the behaviour in this post feels really poor.

On my mother’s side, family relations were always also somewhat dysfunctional. My grandfather looked out for me because he felt sorry for me because my own dad was absent. My aunt had a thinly veiled contempt for me and my mum that I never understood until I was older when I realised she resented me because her own relationship with my grandfather was fractured. I don’t know why and never will. I do know that I was not the cause of that and - whilst I sympathise - I can see that she took it out on her sister and me (from a very young child) rather than have it out with those responsible for her relationship with them - her parents.

I’m very aware I’m projecting my own situation on to this, but it reads very much that the bride is carrying old wounds that may or may not be valid, but is taking out on a 14 year old something that has nothing to do with that child. Just as my aunt did, your step daughter is doing a bait and switch by making it appear that this is about you and your eldest daughter. I would absolutely not be playing that game at all.
It’s literally nothing to do with you and your DD - this is between her and her dad. Don’t fall into that trap: not your circus, OP. This is their circus.

I would not interfere with the financial commitment to pay for the wedding or my husband’s obligation to his eldest daughter on her wedding day. But it is totally wrong to let a 14 year old carry something that isn’t hers.

At the absolute least, your husband needs to take this opportunity to ask his daughter what she is hurting about. He needs to be father enough to listen to that. Perhaps there is an opportunity to heal something, here. I appreciate that he doesn’t want to lose his daughter, but there IS something going on here and by the bride choosing to act as she has, she is the one that has decided to make a public statement about her feelings by acting in this way. These feelings exist and step daughter has shown her hand. Your husband achieves nothing by pretending everything is fine because it demonstrably is not. I’d very much be expecting husband to ask her if she has something to say then to use her actual words and explain her feelings rather than be punching down on a child.

I feel very sorry for this sad situation, OP. I hope the right people can find the courage to speak, to listen and to heal.

I wouldn’t be going without her and - if you are both unable to go, all your 14 year old needs to grasp is that hurt people hurt people and 9/10 it’s sod all to do with the people on the receiving end. Lots of hugs - do something infinitely more fun than what is likely to be a very dull day of a um likely emotionally immature bride.
Wishing you and your girls all the best.
X

Orwellsunshine · 18/04/2025 23:31

CopperWhite · 18/04/2025 19:41

@Orwellsunshine
The absence of her step mother, however, would be highly noticeable and would suggest their relationship is far more fraught than it actually is. She could avoid all this by just inviting her step sister. Her father needs to explain this to her.

Yes, their absence might be noticeable and maybe the bride is ok with that at her wedding. Sometimes step children forced into blended situations get fed up with playing happy families just for show. Maybe she’s taking the opportunity, on the one occasion where she is in charge, just to have the family she considers closest to her without having to accommodate others.

It is incredibly small minded to complain that the bride is mean without considering the position she has been forced into and how she might feel about that. She owes the OP nothing.

But she has invited the op - so she is merely taking the opportunity to exclude a 14 year old who played no part in creating the situation. It is a mean thing to do and it makes no sense to ostracise the step sister while welcoming the op.

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 18/04/2025 23:32

Outrageistheopiateofthemasses · 18/04/2025 22:37

I am genuinely sorry OP. It is clear that this is distressing to you and your husband and anyone can understand why. However, overall I am on team bride-to-be and her poor father who is going to suffer the most from all of this.
The vipers' nest has really been stirred into a frenzy and there are a lot of malicious and horrible women on this thread tonight. I would not have made the same choice your SD did. But ultimately, if she doesn't see your daughter as her family, it's ok to not want her there. It's always weird to hear women call other women cow, bitch and c*&t over an issue which doesn't affect them at all. I, for one, hope the B2B has a lovely wedding and don't wish a hex on her offspring for the next seven generations.

I am very curious about all the women who think your husband "should not allow this" or words to that effect. What exactly do they want him to do? She is a 29 year old woman and this isn't Iran. He can't "make" her do anything. Do people really expect him to refuse to attend his own daughter's wedding for the sake of his step daughter? Or refuse to now pay what he agreed to? Again, over his step daughter. If he did either of those things he would truly be an atrocious father. A post you made up-thread, about a comment that she made to you, implied that through absence or behaviour he has not been a good father to her in the past. Perhaps that is why he wants to compensate now. I don't know any of the details and I am speculating but if that is the case then it would absolutely be unforgivable if he tried to pull funding or manipulate her guest list now, and she would be right to cut him out of her life if he were to try. Again, it would send a clear message that she was less important to him as his actual (and possibly previously hard-done-by) daughter than his step daughter. I could never be with a man who treated his daughter like that. The time to put stipulations on how the money is spent is at the time it is offered, not after invitations have gone out.

You have said she is always pleasant and polite to your daughter and dotes on her half sisters, your other daughters. She doesn't sound like a bad person to me. She just doesn't view your eldest as family.... Not everyone's view, but also not a crime.
Do something nice with your eldest that day. But don't make your husband pay for it. He has done nothing wrong. It's not his decision and he should not abandon his eldest daughter or her wedding for one decision despite how much it angers the absolutely crazy and vindictive people on this thread.

You couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

There are some "malicious and horrible women"- you are not wrong about that, but they are the ones who think this is in any shape or form a decent way to treat a 14 year old, and create such division within a family!

To quote you again, "I could never be with a man who treated his stepdaughter like that". Fixed it for you.

The "crazy and vindictive" one is bridezilla.

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