To think I can't be the only person who doesn't know a single trans person

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Seriously.

The news is full of people worrying about how the SC ruling will affect people who identify as trans.

Where are they? Not in my office (large organisation), my family or social groups. I don't come across any in the village where I live or when I go into town.

DD is at university and doesn't know any trans people.

Surely, I can't be the only one?

They are the shoutiest most entitled minority. Their few number does not correspond to all the shit they cause for women.

Our GP is one .really good doctor and really nice person.never bothers me I jot though

Blair has said he knows he’s not a woman - he doesn’t claim to be a woman funnily enough.
He has talked before about the homophobia from his childhood that made him want to dress and act like a woman to be more accepted. I believe they call it transing away the gay.
It very sad actually that he couldn’t just be the effeminate gay man that he actually is.

On the other hand, the mainly middle aged straight men who ‘come out’ as trans, often after they have married and had children, although apparently the ages are getting younger- these are a different type according to Ray Blanchards typology - called autogynephiles. Basically they are sexually aroused by the thoughts of themselves as women.
These guys are more problematic, because part of their fantasy is being validated as a woman in women’s spaces, so they are more pushy and demanding.

These first two groups generally aren’t that interested in getting genital surgery, but will often opt for hormones and breast augmentation to complete the fantasy in their minds.

And then there’s another group - the young woman, many of whom are autistic or have some trauma in their lives, or are actually lesbians and are struggling with that - who claim to be trans. These are the group that seem to be demanding hormones and surgery to change their growing bodies - in some cases as they are scared of puberty and the changes it brings. These are the most vulnerable to making decisions that may their long term health.

These groups have very little in common, and it’s weird to me that people think the motivation for each is somehow the same.

I'm so surprised at how many people don't know any.

Two of my friends' sons are trans men. My daughter is really good friends with a trans man. I work with a trans woman (I'm new, there may well be more). I've met four transwomen through previous jobs. My lodger is a trans woman (friend of a friend that needed somewhere to stay).

There's nothing unusual about my life, I'm just a normal person doing a normal job.

OP, how do you know?
Are you expecting them all to look like Danny La Rue?
Or wear a lanyard?

Yes, I work with two trans women. Both so gentle and kind. They are both utterly devastated.

Well, aren't you the clever one? Do you have x-yay eyes?

Why would it devastate them that the law will treat them as the sex they actually are? This is simply acknowledging biological reality.

All these devastated people - why not put your efforts into campaigning for third spaces???

This is so sad. Poor kids!

Well done, OP, you've managed to get quite the number of ignorant haters together on this thread. Sadly, many of these are people bringing up children, so lovely to know that such attitudes are being taught.

It’s far from ‘simple’ as you’re fully aware.

It’s denying they exist and I know they neither use changing rooms or women’s bathrooms because the last thing they want is to make anyone uncomfortable.

Honestly, don’t believe the hype and distraction. Trans people are not the problem.

I have a family member who transitioned and then detransitioned and is now unfortunately left with long term physical effects from taking testosterone, even though she stopped more than a year ago.

You're not the only one op. I've never met a trans person either.
Maybe they all choose to live in Brighton or similar.

This isn't about bathrooms this is about womens' sport and prisons. Also public changing rooms.

No one is denying anyone exists. In fact the ruling clarifies that people shouldn't be discriminated against because they are/have transitioned.

The law has also clarified that they should be treated as their biological sex for legal purposes, which is simply acknowledgement of reality.

If they aren't using opposite sex spaces, then what would change?

If transwomen are devastated, it just proves they feel entitled to encroach into areas they don't belong. The ruling simply said a woman is a biological sex. Yeah, so? And? What's devastating about that?

If they are 'devastated' they can't access female only spaces then they have a hide to be as they should never have been there. Many transwomen don't use female spaces - are they devastated? Don't they think us females have been 'devastated' that these entitled CFers have been violating our boundaries and spaces, and now they are devastated they may be told to stop doing that?

It shows that it's about violating womens boundaries and male entitlement, and they aren't genuine. If any trans (especially transwomen) that you know are 'devastated' about this ruling I'd give them a strong talking to and tell them women were devastated they were in our spaces to begin with, to use the male or gender neutral spaces and shut up and get over themselves and stop being so selfish. Males 'devastated' that they can no longer violate female only spaces - pure male entitlement. Absolutely no thought whatsoever the effect they've had on females. It's all about them.

And domestic abuse shelters, and rape crisis counselling, and intimate care for sick/disabled women.

Calling females, females is not denying males eXiSt! Many transwomen acknowledge they aren't actually women. Is their 'exiStEnCe' denied, too?

You're right, it's not trans people that is the problem, it is MALES. Now you finally get it. Pity too many on here still think this is about trans, when it isn't. It never was. It's about males, no matter how they identify.

Are you truly telling us you've lived your whole life and are unable to tell a man from a woman?

Really?

One of my fave travel writers (Jan Morris) transitioned in 1970s. I had a trans lecturer at uni in 1980s. Went to raves and clubs with trans women, and worked with a trans man, in 1990s. Since 2010s a trans woman’s worked in my local Sainsbury’s. My cousin is trans.

Guess it depends if you know they’re trans, where you spend your time and if those places feel safe for trans people.

What a toxic comment

It's about all 4, bathrooms included.

Important to note that this ruling has clarified that trans men should have access to all their female based rights around pregnancy and maternity and so on. This is an important clarification.

Agreed. TWAW is the ultimate male privilege.