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to put a positive spin on going to the male toilets if I must

86 replies

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 19:25

So there's probably an upside

There are rarely any queues for the gents.

I can't use the urinals seeing as I no longer have a penis so I'll be using the cubicles and there's normally no queue for those.

Blokes tend to stare in front of them.

Blokes don't tend to spend a long time at the sinks.

But good God, there can be a smell.

OP posts:
lnks · 17/04/2025 19:30

I’m struggling to understand this. So you’re a man who has been using the women’s loos?

RareMaker · 17/04/2025 19:34

Get a RADR key?

CatRescueNeeded · 17/04/2025 19:35

RareMaker · 17/04/2025 19:34

Get a RADR key?

OP hasn’t given any indication that they are disabled!

BreadInCaptivity · 17/04/2025 19:36

The comfort in knowing you are not infringing on the rights of women - a cohort you purport to identify with?

RareMaker · 17/04/2025 19:36

CatRescueNeeded · 17/04/2025 19:35

OP hasn’t given any indication that they are disabled!

Doesn't matter. That's what I would do. You can order online.

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 17/04/2025 19:37

This whole thing is horrendous.

I am appalled on behalf of all trans people.

We see you. We hear you. There are people here supporting you.

Annascaul · 17/04/2025 19:37

RareMaker · 17/04/2025 19:36

Doesn't matter. That's what I would do. You can order online.

It absolutely matters, ffs.

Annascaul · 17/04/2025 19:38

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 17/04/2025 19:37

This whole thing is horrendous.

I am appalled on behalf of all trans people.

We see you. We hear you. There are people here supporting you.

What’s horrendous about male bodied people no longer being allowed in women only spaces?

Espresso25 · 17/04/2025 19:38

BreadInCaptivity · 17/04/2025 19:36

The comfort in knowing you are not infringing on the rights of women - a cohort you purport to identify with?

👏🏻
I chose a bear.

Gymrabbit · 17/04/2025 19:39

Good attitude to have.
I am in favour of single sex toilets plus disabled then a separate unisex/accessible toilet too. Obviously not possible everywhere but it’s what we have where I work and keeps everyone happy.

Screamingabdabz · 17/04/2025 19:39

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 17/04/2025 19:37

This whole thing is horrendous.

I am appalled on behalf of all trans people.

We see you. We hear you. There are people here supporting you.

Yeah cos girls and women don’t matter and can just get to fuck eh @TheLightSideOfTheMoon ?

MyUmberSeal · 17/04/2025 19:41

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lnks · 17/04/2025 19:41

What your OP demonstrates, is that despite the whole ‘need to use the women’s loos because I’m not safe in the men’s’, there’s absolutely no safety issue at all.

Annascaul · 17/04/2025 19:46

lnks · 17/04/2025 19:41

What your OP demonstrates, is that despite the whole ‘need to use the women’s loos because I’m not safe in the men’s’, there’s absolutely no safety issue at all.

Exactly.

Raquelos · 17/04/2025 19:53

Create a running commentary in your head in the voice of David Attenborough, note how different the behaviours of the inmates are from your own. Then go about your day knowing that you have done a good deed by respecting women's boundaries.

Big sympathy on the smell though.

SquashedSquid · 17/04/2025 19:56

RareMaker · 17/04/2025 19:36

Doesn't matter. That's what I would do. You can order online.

What the actual fuck? Playing dress up isn't a disability. Stay out of our spaces.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 19:58

lnks · 17/04/2025 19:41

What your OP demonstrates, is that despite the whole ‘need to use the women’s loos because I’m not safe in the men’s’, there’s absolutely no safety issue at all.

There's only one way to find out, isn't there...

OP posts:
FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:00

The fact that you are taking the piss out of, well, taking a piss... Shows that you will now be using the facilities most appropriate for you.

Only someone who hasn't experienced girlhood and womanhood in this misogynistic, unsafe, patriarchal society would be so cavalier about the safety of women.

You can't be a woman because you aren't one. But also because you have absolutely no understanding of the daily impact that it has on our very existence.

You had an opportunity to prove a lot of us wrong about the attitudes of people who identify the way you do. You could have posted a respectful, mature message, empathising with how we feel.

It isn't a surprise that wasn't your instinct.

Sunshineandgrapefruit · 17/04/2025 20:03

Now the decision has been made I think the time has come to be understanding. Thank you for setting a good example op and I hope everyone can be supportive now and move forwards.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:04

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:00

The fact that you are taking the piss out of, well, taking a piss... Shows that you will now be using the facilities most appropriate for you.

Only someone who hasn't experienced girlhood and womanhood in this misogynistic, unsafe, patriarchal society would be so cavalier about the safety of women.

You can't be a woman because you aren't one. But also because you have absolutely no understanding of the daily impact that it has on our very existence.

You had an opportunity to prove a lot of us wrong about the attitudes of people who identify the way you do. You could have posted a respectful, mature message, empathising with how we feel.

It isn't a surprise that wasn't your instinct.

This is a thread about using the male toilets.

OP posts:
FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:07

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:04

This is a thread about using the male toilets.

Now, now.
Let's not be obtuse.
We are presumably all adults here so we know how forums work.

You write an OP about a contentious topic. I respond with my opinions about your opinions.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:08

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:07

Now, now.
Let's not be obtuse.
We are presumably all adults here so we know how forums work.

You write an OP about a contentious topic. I respond with my opinions about your opinions.

It's a thread about putting a positive spin on going to the male toilets.

OP posts:
FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:09

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:08

It's a thread about putting a positive spin on going to the male toilets.

If that is the case then I apologise. I have misunderstood the tone of your OP which is something I can do with being ND.

I don't think you should have ever been using the women's toilets, but if you are stopping doing so with a good attitude then I can respect that.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:12

FeministUnderTheCatriarchy · 17/04/2025 20:09

If that is the case then I apologise. I have misunderstood the tone of your OP which is something I can do with being ND.

I don't think you should have ever been using the women's toilets, but if you are stopping doing so with a good attitude then I can respect that.

To be honest, I will be very nervous about using them. But that's my issue.

OP posts:
Annascaul · 17/04/2025 20:20

Definitelynamechanged123 · 17/04/2025 20:12

To be honest, I will be very nervous about using them. But that's my issue.

Yes, it is.