Supreme Court rules the term sex refers to 'biological women'

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Finally.

There is no “triumph” for me.

i am delighted though.
I feel relief that this reasonable request for clarity has been heard.

The judge also said “the law still gives trans people protection against discrimination.”

As it should do. No one ever argued otherwise.

No shit, Sherlock. Madness that we even had to justify ourselves on this point. Chapeau to those women who fought so hard for this..

The thing with us women is that we will never, ever, ever, ever, EVER EVER give in, until we get our definitions and sex-based rights and spaces back. NEVER!!!!!!!! The Mens Rights Activists thought we were push overs. They were WRONG! They picked the wrong sex to fuck with. They fucked around and they did, and will continue to, find out.

"I am woman, hear me roar
In numbers too big to ignore
And I know too much to go back and pretend
'Cause I've heard it all before
And I've been down there on the floor
No one's ever gonna keep me down again
Whoa, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman (ooh)
You can bend, but never break me
'Cause it only serves to make me
More determined to achieve my final goal
And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'Cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul
Oh, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can do anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman (ooh)
I am woman, watch me grow
See me standing toe to toe
As I spread my lovin' arms across the land
But I'm still an embryo
With a long, long way to go
Until I make my brother understand
Whoa, yes, I am wise
But it's wisdom born of pain
Yes, I've paid the price
But look how much I gained
If I have to, I can face anything
I am strong (strong)
I am invincible (invincible)
I am woman
I am woman (I am woman)
I am invincible (I am woman), I am strong
I am woman (I am woman)
I am invincible (I am woman), I am strong
I am woman (I am woman)
I am woman (I am woman)"

Relieved, common sense has prevailed

Me too. I hadn't realised how nervous I had been about this ruling. Very relieved. But can there be an appeal?

Don’t forget : People who menstruate, uterus-havers and vulva owners

I don’t think so. Supreme Court is the end of the line I think?

No, this is as far as it goes. The end of the (legal) line. The highest authority.

Firstly we don't have an issue with trans people. It's with MALES.

Secondly, if you had paid attention instead of choosing ignorance is bliss, you'd know there are many transwomen (and allies) that truly believe they have changed sex by taking hormones that it changes their sex. They are that ill that they genuinely believe they actually change their sex. Hormones apparently alter chromosomes, DNA and 'body chemistry' to become females. This is only one example I have; I have lots of screenshots especially from transwomen who say they are biologically female. Also note India Willoughby and the Fife transwoman doctor who says he is biologically female (and he is a doctor, ffs!)

Wow! Common sense prevails! Any other decision would have been illogical.

My exact works when they announced it on the news.
WHOOOOOOOP!!!
Btw. The beeb is all over this.
Big item on Woman's hour.
Are they suddenly being all honest and brave now that they've got the supreme court to point to?

Excellent news though it beggars belief a supreme court judge had to do this.

Relief. Huge, huge sense of relief. But also anger that it has come to this. It’s like Galileo versus the flat earthers.

What happens next? I want to see how this will affect rape crisis services, schools, women’s sport…

Problem is men can change their birth certificates. The whole thing is still a mess but I absolutely wholeheartedly heartedly cheer this ruling.

I was surprised but happy at the result

A panel of judges which included women. Try your faux feminism again.

It was never in question to anybody with an ounce of sensibility.

Where is the party. I want to be there. Thank you thank you

You do have to laugh (wryly) at those who deliberately stuck their fingers in their ears and chanted 'be kind' now claiming that they hadn't picked up on the nuances of the argument. Which women have been discussing at length. For years.

But anyway, massive thanks to For Women Scotland for fighting ceaselessly for the rights of women! We're bloody lucky to have them.

There were five people on the panel.

The judge also said “the law still gives trans people protection against discrimination.”
As it should do. No one ever argued otherwise.

Agree totally. The problem is that the genderist lobby has deliberately conflated "discrimination against trans people" (which is and should be illegal, for example when it comes to who gets housing, a job etc, and of course protection against any kind of persecution) with knowing what sex someone is and daring to say so. The way this has been pushed into schools, the NHS, police, corporates etc means lots of people - including actual police officers and NHS staff - think it's discriminatory and wrong to not think and behave as if TWAW in every circumstance.

"Discrimination" doesn't mean understanding that a TW is a man and acting accordingly when lesbians and other women need safety and dignity and spaces of their own. It means discriminating against trans people in the exact same way that discrimination apples to other protected groups.

A LOT of people need to get this into their heads, and lying propaganda from the likes of Stonewall and similar genderist orgs must be weeded out and banned. It would be if it related to any other protected category.

European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR), but the process is complex and not a direct appeal. The ECtHR cannot quash, vary, or revise the UK Supreme Court's decisions. Instead, an individual can apply to the ECtHR if they believe their human rights have been violated by a UK court, including the Supreme Court, but the ECtHR will not rehear the case or directly intervene with the UK court.

Are you referring to Robert Kennedy Junior? What does JRK mean?

It's a massive relief and I got quite teary watching the women singing after the ruling. However, I'm not particularly looking forward to having to explain this to my grandchildren one day in the future, if they ever ask why society went so unbelievably stupid in the 2010s and 2020s.

Isn’t this ruling saying they still wouldn’t be counted as a woman though as they’re not biologically female? Though I guess if they’ve changed their birth certificate how can you prove they’re not short of invasive tests which nobody wants…..can they change their birth certificate? I thought they got a gender recognition certificate or something but I’m maybe out of date?