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Supreme Court rules the term sex refers to 'biological women'

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everythingthelighttouches · 16/04/2025 10:10

Finally.

There is no “triumph” for me.

i am delighted though.
I feel relief that this reasonable request for clarity has been heard.

The judge also said “the law still gives trans people protection against discrimination.”

As it should do. No one ever argued otherwise.

Supreme Court rules the term sex refers to 'biological women'
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JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:05

slashlover · 16/04/2025 19:59

Because that was my initial point. I give up, you people are being deliberately misconstruing what I wrote.

Rick Astley GIF

Are you gonna give up yet?

Mba1974 · 16/04/2025 20:05

slashlover · 16/04/2025 19:57

So you stopped using and nobody told you that you couldn't? OK. You brought up donkeys, not me.

I give up. Not one person can say they were told not to call themselves a woman.

Are you 12? My 16yr old could extrapolate out from how changing the meaning of a word to something incorrect and offensive would cause the people the word refers to to feel unable to use it. It doesn’t require a single person to wag their finger at you and say “you can’t use that anymore”.. that’s primary school logic 🙄

ConstanceM · 16/04/2025 20:06

Guud.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:06

slashlover · 16/04/2025 19:57

So you stopped using and nobody told you that you couldn't? OK. You brought up donkeys, not me.

I give up. Not one person can say they were told not to call themselves a woman.

I am in a hobby group where we were expressly told not to refer to ourselves collectively as women, because not everyone in the group is a woman.

Fair enough, you might say. It's a hobby group, not a menopause support group.

Except that every single person in the group who said, "Thank you! I'm not a woman!" was in fact a woman.

ArabellaScott · 16/04/2025 20:06

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

There is absolutely nothing to stop you funding and supporting whatever causes, groups etc you wish.

You just can't control what women choose to support. Sorry.

DuesToTheDirt · 16/04/2025 20:06

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

It is ridiculous, isn't it, that so much money has had to be spent to prove that men are not, and never can be, women!

WhatterySquash · 16/04/2025 20:06

‘Othered, siloed and outed’

It's called the truth. Males ARE "other" than women. If a category for males, or females, is a "silo", then so is any category. The whole point of categories is that they exclude things that aren't in them.

We have age, disability and weight categories in sport, we have height categories for fairground rides, we have age categories for voting, buying alcohol, and on and on. Presumably you think it's fair for those categories to maintain their integrity – and a female category is no different. There is no actual evidence that a male has ever been a woman or become a woman. None. Twisting the definitions of words doesn't change that.

As for "outing", that suggests you understand that a TW is not really a woman. Otherwise how would "outing" be possible?

GCAcademic · 16/04/2025 20:07

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

You've really imbibed all the empty slogans, haven't you?

Try thinking some of them through, if you can.

As a result of this judgement, we have established clearly what "women's victim groups" are, and we can ensure that males can't encroach on and undermine them.

Money shouldn't have needed to be spent on this fight, but it did, and we can now ensure that we can claw back some of those services and rights that women have fought for.

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:07

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

It’s OK, JK Rowling funded it 💀

TBH all your posts can be boiled down to “Women: STFU. Or I’ll call you a name and shame you. Waaaaaaah”

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 16/04/2025 20:08

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 19:55

Wait - you want names?? Why?

Names, addresses, times, dates and supporting documentation 😂😂

spannasaurus · 16/04/2025 20:08

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

Various funding bodies will not fund single sex womens groups and will only provide funds for trans inclusive services.

There's a legal case regarding the lack of women only rape support in Brighton waiting to be heard. Brighton offers male only groups, trans groups and a mixed sex groups which they label as a womans group. No single sex female provision at all

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:09

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

This was a landmark piece of litigation funded and fought for by a group of women, which establishes beyond doubt that "women" is in fact a meaningful term under the law, that it relates to a group of people who all share the same biological sex (female) and that we are allowed to have rights and protections on that basis.

It literally couldn't be more feminist if it anthropomorphised as the ghost of Emmeline Pankhurst, grew out its armpit hair and threw itself in front of a horse for the right to vote, whilst burning its bra.

Fake feminism is the kind that centres men.

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:10

Nameychangington · 16/04/2025 20:04

Trans people are demographically the safest people on the country.

Black women and women from ethnic minorities have been forced out of their single sex spaces by entitled makes who the law has now made clear, never had the right to be there. Disabled women have been forced to take intimate care from men who said they were women, and gaslit if they objected. The mistreatment of these women is being perpetrated by gender ideologues, so how dare you co-op their oppression to shore up your luxury belief?

Woman is an adult human female. It's a biological fact, not an identity. Being a woman has nothing to do with 'femininity' and you might know that if you were one.

Men aren't women, and it's got fuck all to do with race, you oppression thief.

Not to mention women like Muslims and Orthodox Jews who cannot share their spaces with biological males. No longer will middle class attention seeking Tarquin in culottes and pigtails claim these women need to fuck off out their safe space because he’s the Most Oppressed At The Gym

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:11

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:07

It’s OK, JK Rowling funded it 💀

TBH all your posts can be boiled down to “Women: STFU. Or I’ll call you a name and shame you. Waaaaaaah”

JK Rowling probably did part fund it.

JK Rowling funds a lot of things.

One of the perks of being one of the richest women in the world.

HaddyAbrams · 16/04/2025 20:11

Its so nice to see some normality here.
My threads/Instagram feeds are full of people crying about how awful/unfair/transphobic this all is. Apparently we are now as bad as trump. And what about "intersex" people. And clown fish. And and and and. Blah.

Anyway. I think it's brilliant news, even if I'm not brave enough to come out and say that publicly.

And just in case anyone feels the need to explain intersex to me. I know. That's the wrong term. They are still male or female. But the people I see on SM are calling them intersex.

Greyskybluesky · 16/04/2025 20:11

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 20:03

The amount of money wasted on this legal battle for fake feminism is ridiculous
whilst women’s victims groups are screaming out for support and funding

Many of the women's groups "screaming out" for funding were the ones rejected for funding because they wouldn't include trans-identifying males in their definition of "women". So they didn't get the funding because they weren't "inclusive" enough.

I don't expect you to understand this but I thought I'd post it anyway for the sake of truth and fact.

AngeDough · 16/04/2025 20:11

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 16/04/2025 19:39

What else shouldn’t we be bothered about? The 3 women a week who are murdered in the UK by men? I suppose if you don’t know any of those women why should you care, right?
How about rape? If you’ve never been raped or know any women that have, you don’t need to worry about it do you? And talking about rape, we probably shouldn’t care about the vulnerable women in prison who have been raped by the trans identifying men that have been put in prison with them, in the name of ‘be kind’, should we?
As long as you don’t care, we should all follow suit eh? JFC 🤦‍♀️

What on earth has that got to do with the ruling?
someone wanting to be referred to as a women is not the same as murder or rape. How ridiculous

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:11

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 16/04/2025 20:08

Names, addresses, times, dates and supporting documentation 😂😂

And video footage 🤣

Or they give up. Again

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:12

WhatterySquash · 16/04/2025 20:06

‘Othered, siloed and outed’

It's called the truth. Males ARE "other" than women. If a category for males, or females, is a "silo", then so is any category. The whole point of categories is that they exclude things that aren't in them.

We have age, disability and weight categories in sport, we have height categories for fairground rides, we have age categories for voting, buying alcohol, and on and on. Presumably you think it's fair for those categories to maintain their integrity – and a female category is no different. There is no actual evidence that a male has ever been a woman or become a woman. None. Twisting the definitions of words doesn't change that.

As for "outing", that suggests you understand that a TW is not really a woman. Otherwise how would "outing" be possible?

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:12

Ricky Gervais has waded in the celebrations. Glinner and James Dreyfus, who have endured harassment and threats for years for speaking out, are celebrating too. It’s glorious to witness.

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 16/04/2025 20:13

society decided that Lesbian actually meant women who have sex with donkeys. Would you still feel comfortable calling yourself a lesbian!? Same difference..

Erm what 🙄

There is no same difference at all, what you’ve said is frankly absolutely absurd!

Men and woman can have consensual sex with each other and it not be illegal, women/male committing bestiality is illegal under section 69!

In what facetious world are you living in?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:13

AngeDough · 16/04/2025 20:11

What on earth has that got to do with the ruling?
someone wanting to be referred to as a women is not the same as murder or rape. How ridiculous

I don't think you have understood the ruling.

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:14

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 16/04/2025 20:11

JK Rowling probably did part fund it.

JK Rowling funds a lot of things.

One of the perks of being one of the richest women in the world.

She did fund it, and it’s refreshing to see wealthy people using their wealth for the greater good

JandamiHash · 16/04/2025 20:15

AngeDough · 16/04/2025 20:11

What on earth has that got to do with the ruling?
someone wanting to be referred to as a women is not the same as murder or rape. How ridiculous

It is if someone is telling you that you weren’t raped by a man when you were

viques · 16/04/2025 20:16

mumsthewordi · 16/04/2025 19:51

So sad to see the transphobia on MN and this thread
this isn’t a win for feminism
it’s a win for white supremacy

You might need to explain this a bit further.

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