Katy Perry going into orbit

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Money talks eh. What a load of bollocks. Bunch of millionaires in tight suits going on a ten minute mission with rhe girlfriend of a dodgy billionaire. Girl power my arse.

This.

Well said. Some posters have spectacularly missed the point.

Pseudo feminism and bitter scolds. Listen to yourself.

@SpidersAreShitheads has said it all really. This was an extravagant, self-promotional act that did little to benefit anyone beyond those involved on a PR mission. It had nothing to do with STEM at all.

No skills required other than signing a big fat cheque.

The flight was entirely automated, good job really given the skill set of the passengers on board, bar one.

Well at least we can look forward to Katy Perry's new song about her experience.
Every cloud eh 🤦‍♀️

Why is everyone so upset with her? I don't understand.

I agree with previous posters, this stunt does nothing at all to advance feminism or STEM, quite the opposite. Just imagine getting a similarly situated group of men to do this - a pop star, a chat show host, an influencer and then a token activist/scientist. Dress them in superhero style fitted outfits, And all the fanfare, look at these brave boys going into space! It would look ridiculous. Why don’t we see this as ridiculous because they are female.

It is a toxic (largely republican American) interpretation of feminism. Look, girls being brave and looking sexy. But actually doing nothing at all but sit in pod and squeal and then talk about how exciting and life changing it all was. Think of men doing this and how ridiculous it would look.

This is not equality.

@Ffgeefg, in broad terms, because it is a tone deaf publicity stunt, environmentally irresponsible and entirely disconnected from reality.

Add in the fact that she thinks it’s about women in STEM and that she’s somehow championing it. I graduated in STEM 35 years ago and it was a very tough space to be in.

Add in that these celebrities with fat cheque books are being labelled as role models, they are not role models I’d want my kids or the young people I work with to aspire to.

KP actually stated that her motivation included ‘setting an example for her daughter and showing that such extraordinary achievements are possible, highlighting the collective energy and importance of making space for women in exploration’.

Absolute rot, KP was on the flight because she has rich friends and a big bank balance.

It's the false claims they are making around the words crew, astronauts and mission.
They have awarded themselves a status - a quite a significant hard to achieve status - they have no entitlement to.
They have then garnished these lies with sexiness and several layers of nauseating 'hey guys look at me".
To top it off they have claimed to be role models for young girls.

Bring back Helen Sharman!

Oh what no. They just paid for it.

Sorry not sure what you mean.

Exactly.

They didn't do anything great. They just paid for the flight.

I wonder how much we've moved on from the 1970s if all the 'kick-ass trailblazer females' look like Charlie's Angels.

I agree. What about the others?

Look up Kellie gerardi, her whole mission is making girls realize they can have both

When Katy Perry released Woman's World and everyone attacked the video, I thought, oh that's a shame, 8 or 10 years ago we'd have eaten it up, she's just not judged the moment. But it turns out she really is that person. Crass.

The worrying thing for me is that this is a rewriting of what feminism should be. It's absolutely debasing feminism and turning it into some sort of sexy glam time. Well if you teach young women that's all they need to be feminists - and let's face it it's been like this for years on social media - then they are not equipped to properly deal with patriarchy unless they go out of their way to do so. They'll just say 'I'm a feminist, I can look like this and..." and what? There's nothing more to it for a lot of young women. I think it's insidious and ultimately a move by the billionaire sect to sell a type of womanhood that utterly hobbles women

I'm just sick of the sex and the city, ultra glam femme-inists.

Couldn't we have had a few frumps?

I mean as a woman I get more inspired by Tim Peake, a short, wiry ginger nerd with a bad haircut. He's completely normal and look what he has achieved.

I bet he doesn't rake out hundreds a month on blow drys and Botox.

The irony is that the quickest Google will show plenty of women astronauts going back decades, posing proudly in their spacesuits for their official photos, with "done" hair and makeup. Proper astronauts (the ones who actually go into space) with multiple STEM degrees, test pilot experience, etc., who went through gruelling selection to get there at all. Noone has any issue with it.

I'd love to know their opinion of "putting the ass into astronaut" courtesy of Katy Perry and the rest of the infantilising performance this week.

Meanwhile we are paying extortionate prices for energy because of whatever zero net goals the UK has, and washing slime and blood of food packaging to recycle, this dystopia is getting boring 🙈

@TokyoKyoto spot on.

I still remember a conversation with my eldest DC when they first became aware of celebs with ‘enhanced appearances’. It must have been 2015/6 as we always watch competitive athletics, we talked about Jessica Ennis and how women like her, strong, healthy, naturally talented, disciplined, committed (and seems like a great person) was the sort of role model to aspire to.

@Uricon2 there hasn’t been a single comment from an astronaut has there. I remember Sarah Brightman calling off her trip, I’m sure she signed up for something like 6 months of training but that was actually a trip to the ISS.

I agree. Marina Hyde has an excellent column about it in The Guardian. Trying to dress it up as an all female 'crew' going into 'space' was just a publicity stunt. If anything, I see it as destructive to feminism rather than promoting it, seeing as they seemed more concerned about costumes, make-up and hair than about science, humanity or the environment.

@Uricon2 "I'd love to know their opinion of "putting the ass into astronaut" courtesy of Katy Perry and the rest of the infantilising performance this week. "

Well if it's anything less than gushing whooping praise then they'll just be accused of being jealous 🙄.

The fact they all have poor Indian women’s hair glued onto their heads and they want to talk about how much of an advancement the “flight” was just disgusts me. Focus on the Earth that you exploit.

🎶"We went to space in a penis.
Except we didn't quite..." 🎶

"We went up 4 miles past the Karman line

And that was the extent of our flight"