Most shops are just landfill waiting to happen.

[SummerDaytoNight]

I mean, all are to a point, but I’m talking about the non essential ones.

Our society is engineering its own collapse. We only need food, health, house basics and clothing. And I suppose, technology.

Fast fashion could go. Housing should just be the essentials.

My friend took me into a shop called sostrene grene. It was lovely, but nothing was essential. Most shops are like that.

The horse has bolted, but I wish we could limit the unnecessarily stuff and just have the basics. Im not talking Amish level, but there’s no need for all this waste. It would be so much better if only the essentials were produced.

At the point of production, it’s already basically landfill.

I took a bag of at least 50 pens to ryman, making quite a detour, and I was told that they had "lost" the recycling point - not misplaced but she said it as though they had had it taken away. It was really odd.
I spent ages googling afterwards to try to find where to take the pens and got nowhere. Nothing on terra cycle or recycle now. I felt such guilt at binning them.

Tanning used to be done with dog shit. Maybe we should go back to that, it would solve the dog fouling problem at the same time.

@AquaPeer that was a great doc, very eye-opening.

What about vinted, Ebay, etc.
I am on a low income myself that's why I buy quality stuff secondhand. It's a lot cheaper.

Yes, and a lot of things made in China are most definitely not tat. Where I live practically everything is made there, both cheap and high end stuff, if we weren't buying from China we wouldn't be buying very much!

I'm in NZ and the thrift shops in my town accept most things, as does the recycling shop at the local resource recovery park. I worked at the recycling shop for a while a few years ago, and some of the thrift shops would send stuff they couldn't sell or didn't have room for to us. The shop was always quite busy and some people came every day to look over the new stuff.

Yep, individual items can be ££ with postage but bundles can work out very cheaply.

What a sad, depressing, infuriating read this is!!!

I wonder if people had been stuffing any old crap in there and the staff hadn't realised, then when it was full they innocently sealed it up to be sent to the recycling place but the recycling people discovered it was full of dirty tissues, half eaten sandwiches and split drink.
So they weren't allowed to have another one.

Nasty chemicals do not have to be used. There are natural ways of tanning leather.

I saw a sad programme about the vast shipments of clothes to Africa.
The local people had stopped making and wearing their own fabulous hand printed clothes with turbans and rushed down to each consignment of western clothes which they wore and were no comparison.

I mean. This sound a bit patronising. It’s ok for black people/ people from low income countries to enjoy globalisation too. They don’t have to be killing sheep to make their own hats

I’ve had the same issue, but the Ryman’s staff explained that they no longer have a contract with the recycling company that they used to use, hence the recycling points were taken away. but they are trying to find another company that will take pens for recycling.

Yes I loved Morgan especially £10 sales would run all the way from office to Oxford street and Shelly shoes and zoo to. Gutted about the massive top shop closing at Oxford Circus spent hours in there. I recently sold my buffalo spice girls boots on vinted for £150 and the original yellow bag was next to it the loft so I wrapped them up in it. There was also so many more boutique one off shops then too. I don’t understand why you think I wasn’t in the 90s I have 2 adult DD I would have thought loads of mums net users are early 50s? Unless on the baby threads

I don’t think you weren’t in the 90s- you said that clothing was much better cut and quality then. I was pointing out Morgan et tui was the same trash quality as todays landfill

It was Morgan de toi, not Morgan et tui (but yes, it was trash!).

It was! Check my terrible French grammar lol

Morgan de toi is still going in France, and they sell to the UK on Zalando.

I’m not sure that I agree entirely. Just because something is cheap and made of plastic or polyester doesn’t mean that it is necessarily going to break immediately or that someone will tire of it and throw it away any more than they would an object made of wood, or more expensive clothing. You are making a massive assumption that people who buy cheaply only do so in order that they can use/wear once and replace. It may be that their priorities are on doing things rather than having expensive things but prefer to buy new than second hand.

The idea that people on limited incomes shouldn’t be able to try on clothing and make sure they get the size and design that they want rather than be limited to what other people are getting rid of really annoys me.

Yes, I rarely see anything I want second hand. I also don't have the energy to spend all that time looking. I prefer to buy new. I can also feel the fabric which is very important to me too.
I don't wear things once and throw it away. I wear stuff until it pretty much falls apart.

Does it annoy you more than sweatshop child slavery?

Sweat shop slavery is a different thing though, and has been around for a significant amount of time- I remember it coming to light in the 90s with nike but assume it was widespread much earlier.
It’s a function of poor workers rights, protections and health and safety. All forced labour is bad, it doesn’t get worse in bigger numbers.

People will die on the hill of the Right to Shite

I'm not sure it was that; they kept it behind the till. I think it was a bigger issue than ghat and I get the feeling they have gone from all stores.

How dare we deny anyone the right to swap their still-perfectly-good Breton from last year for a new-one-with-slightly-different-width stripes from this year!!!