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AIBU to feel scammed by breastfeeding

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PickledElectricity · 11/04/2025 18:41

Kind of joking, kind of not.

I breastfed my DS until he was 19 months old (he's now 2) and despite this he's had every bug going at nursery, is allergic to nuts and now seems to have hay fever! I'm gutted as he loves to be outside and is now sneezing, congested, has puffy red eyes and a runny nose.

Where are the miracle benefits I was promised?!

Don't get me wrong, I'm very glad I did it, it was lovely for bonding and saved my life and sanity in the middle of the night, and tbh I am a very lazy person and couldn't face washing and sterilising bottles every single day.

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Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:36

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 17:29

Breastmilk can promote long term health benefits that formula doesn’t though. Thought to lower your chance of developing type 1 diabetes, crohns etc later on. It does not prevent these conditions, they are complex and many factors are at play. But…for some people it will probably make a difference.

Absolutely there are pros and cons, but you shouldn’t leave that sort of information out either@Smallmercies.
Otherwise mothers can’t make an informed decision.

Again, these benefits are only detectable at population level, plus they are offset by risks specific to breastfeeding, eg HIV transmission or failure to thrive due to insufficient milk.

LuckyMoonstone · 13/04/2025 17:43

TheJollyMoose · 12/04/2025 12:16

If you try and are unable, you don’t need to feel guilty.

If you don’t even bother to try to do the best for your baby then yeah, you should feel guilty about that, and if you don’t that says a lot about the type of parent you are.

You should feel guilty for being a judgemental POS

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:45

There are also risks specific to breastfeeding mothers, eg dysphoric milk ejection reflex DMER, which is horrible.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:47

LuckyMoonstone · 13/04/2025 17:43

You should feel guilty for being a judgemental POS

Some children lose more from being raised by judgmental mothers than they gain from being breastfed.

TheJollyMoose · 13/04/2025 17:49

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There is when the judgment is as horrible as yours, my sweetpea blossom.

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 17:51

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:36

Again, these benefits are only detectable at population level, plus they are offset by risks specific to breastfeeding, eg HIV transmission or failure to thrive due to insufficient milk.

Yes, but effects at a population level will obviously affect some people.

Definitely give the pros and cons, but don’t leave things out as you see fit is the point I’m making.

For example, crohns is in my family so I’d be interested in reducing risk for my DC if I could at all (worth a try at least, for me). HIV I wouldn’t need to worry about luckily. Obviously for someone else the risk/benefit analysis would be different, but it’s their decision to make, not yours.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:53

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 17:51

Yes, but effects at a population level will obviously affect some people.

Definitely give the pros and cons, but don’t leave things out as you see fit is the point I’m making.

For example, crohns is in my family so I’d be interested in reducing risk for my DC if I could at all (worth a try at least, for me). HIV I wouldn’t need to worry about luckily. Obviously for someone else the risk/benefit analysis would be different, but it’s their decision to make, not yours.

Of course! But women are only ever told about benefits, not risks. And the benefits are presented as being attainable by individual babies, which is just not true.

It's the same with birth; women are told about the risks of cesareans vs the benefits of vaginal birth, when both have risks and benefits.

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 17:56

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:45

There are also risks specific to breastfeeding mothers, eg dysphoric milk ejection reflex DMER, which is horrible.

Well, tell people about that too then.
Then they’ll recognise it if they experience it if they choose to BF.

Pros and cons.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:57

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 17:56

Well, tell people about that too then.
Then they’ll recognise it if they experience it if they choose to BF.

Pros and cons.

Edited

The point is, no one ever does! Breastfeeding is presented as having only benefits.

UndertheCedartree · 13/04/2025 18:00

I actually found a lot of benefits of breastfeeding. I fed both of mine until they were 4. I lost all my baby weight without having to diet, while many other children seemed to often get illnesses and need antibiotics mine never did and neither have needed braces. I think in terms of sleep I benefited massively with not having to get up and make bottles. After a bit of practice I could just pop them on the boob and go back to sleep.

The only negatives were how much you do have to persevere with breastfeeding at times. For example to start with the excruciating pain for a few seconds, mastitis and thrush appeared a bit. It would make me laugh when people would say 'oh, are you still breastfeeding? You're still enjoying it then?' No, I'm not doing this for my own enjoyment! Bloody mastitis or thrush on my nipples is hardly enjoyable!! I'm doing this for the benefits to my child!

WhatNoRaisins · 13/04/2025 18:00

See I actually think that only talking about the benefits of breastfeeding and not any of the risks or downsides is more likely to play into the hands of the formula companies. If you're not warned about cluster feeding (in case it puts you off 🙄) for example then you're surely more likely to think you have low supply than if you have sensible advice about normal feeding and the risk of dehydration.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 18:01

WhatNoRaisins · 13/04/2025 18:00

See I actually think that only talking about the benefits of breastfeeding and not any of the risks or downsides is more likely to play into the hands of the formula companies. If you're not warned about cluster feeding (in case it puts you off 🙄) for example then you're surely more likely to think you have low supply than if you have sensible advice about normal feeding and the risk of dehydration.

This is very true! Realistic expectations can be very helpful. Most breastfeeding problems can be overcome with time and support.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 18:03

I have seen women at risk of sepsis from breast abscesses, and I have seen formula feeding mums glowing with health and enjoyment of their babies because they were getting enough sleep. Pros and cons. No moral judgment.

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:05

And the benefits are presented as being attainable by individual babies, which is just not true.

If so, that is a misunderstanding that needs to be addressed by those running antenatal classes etc.

I have to say I always understood benefits in terms of ‘lowering the chances’ etc, not as absolute certainties.

Definitely agree with @WhatNoRaisins about the importance of new mothers knowing any potential issues of breastfeeding. Much easier to address something if you know it’s normal, or a phase etc.

UndertheCedartree · 13/04/2025 18:06

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 17:45

There are also risks specific to breastfeeding mothers, eg dysphoric milk ejection reflex DMER, which is horrible.

I'd never heard of that, but it reminds me of how I used to feel when pre-menstrual when feeding my DC. I didn't start my periods for 2 years but after that for a few days pre-menstrually I really hated breastfeeding. I'd start telling my friend I wanted to stop. Then my period started and I'd be fine.

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:10

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 18:03

I have seen women at risk of sepsis from breast abscesses, and I have seen formula feeding mums glowing with health and enjoyment of their babies because they were getting enough sleep. Pros and cons. No moral judgment.

But the way you’re speaking here does seem to be in favour of FF @Smallmercies. The examples you give are quite negative towards BF.
It’s one thing being realistic, that’s what we want…but I can’t help feel you actually support FF rather than BF.
That’s not your choice to make for others. You say you work in this area and I’m not sure the advice you give can be neutral?
It’s certainly not coming across as such to me.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 18:16

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:10

But the way you’re speaking here does seem to be in favour of FF @Smallmercies. The examples you give are quite negative towards BF.
It’s one thing being realistic, that’s what we want…but I can’t help feel you actually support FF rather than BF.
That’s not your choice to make for others. You say you work in this area and I’m not sure the advice you give can be neutral?
It’s certainly not coming across as such to me.

I'm not here in a professional capacity, remember - my job is to support and promote breastfeeding but also to support formula feeding parents. I'm not at all negative towards breastfeeding, I think it's amazing. But I also think formula feeding is amazing. And I support parents to achieve their feeding journey, with their babies. I can't put it any more clearly than that, and if you read that as anti-breastfeeding then that's not my problem.

UndertheCedartree · 13/04/2025 18:17

When I had my eldest almost 18 years ago it was all 'breast is best' prior to birth but once the babies were born the midwives seemed to make any excuse to feed them formula. I had to be quite determined to stick to exclusive breastfeeding. I hope women are given more support these days.

Teaandtoastedbiscuits · 13/04/2025 18:18

Yadnbu it's the droopy boobs for me.
Why does no one tell you that before

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:20

@Smallmercies
Okay then. No, I wouldn’t read that as anti BF obviously 😁
The previous comments seemed to be promoting FF over BF.
I think you just wanted to be realistic perhaps? But taken on their own, a bit negative.

Smallmercies · 13/04/2025 18:23

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:20

@Smallmercies
Okay then. No, I wouldn’t read that as anti BF obviously 😁
The previous comments seemed to be promoting FF over BF.
I think you just wanted to be realistic perhaps? But taken on their own, a bit negative.

Edited

Remember this is on a thread where some highly unrealistic claims have been made about breastfeeding, and some horrible judgment against formula feeders has been expressed! I was trying to provide some balance 😊

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:26

That was mainly one poster I think (hope).

Bumble6 · 13/04/2025 19:32

Themaghag · 13/04/2025 15:08

If you look back, you'll see that the majority of posters were merely sharing their own experiences of BF and FF and the outcome regarding bugs and allergies. It was actually @The JollyMoose who first introduced the "bashing" element with her assertion that women who choose not to breastfeed are shit parents. I freely admit that in my own case, the decision was largely motivated by selfishness and vanity, but there was also a big 'yuk' factor too. However, I accept that that's just me and I've never attempted to influence anyone else's feeding decisions. For example, my daughter EBF my two grandchildren for six months, and good for her!

But I do passionately believe that all women should be left to make their own choice and do whatever best suits them without being shamed for either decision and I'd also like to see a lot more help and support for those who do want to breastfeed and acceptance for those who don't, for whatever reason.
I don't think anything on this thread will deter those who want to breastfeed, but neither will the extremely irritating BF evangelism being spouted by some posters persuade those who don't!

There were many derogatory comments from parents who have not breastfed if you look back through, not just their experiences.

And I disagree that people wouldn't be put off breastfeeding reading this. There is a lot of misinformation being posted here.

LuluDelulu · 13/04/2025 19:49

Clementorangeade · 13/04/2025 18:05

And the benefits are presented as being attainable by individual babies, which is just not true.

If so, that is a misunderstanding that needs to be addressed by those running antenatal classes etc.

I have to say I always understood benefits in terms of ‘lowering the chances’ etc, not as absolute certainties.

Definitely agree with @WhatNoRaisins about the importance of new mothers knowing any potential issues of breastfeeding. Much easier to address something if you know it’s normal, or a phase etc.

That seems more like some people misunderstanding statistics. I had a C section and my DD’s gut health seems fine, but that doesn’t mean I doubt the high quality research which suggests vaginal birth is preferable for gut health, even though I can’t physically see any issues in my DD.