Gender and pronouns

[Wyki]

Before I start, the daily mail and other papers can all fuck off

I’m prepared to be flamed for this as I’ve been here long enough to know how it all works but….

aibu to tell my son he can’t have his partner over any more

It’s a new relationship. My son is 21 and the new partner is 18

He barely works and is consequently on a low salary however he does help me with childcare (that I pay a minimal amount for)

the new partner is a very petite pink haired “girl” that does ballet and dance but uses the pronoun he/him

my 11 year old daughter is finding it confusing and asked if her brother is gay. I replied with “no because the partner is very feminine and is a girl despite the pronouns” (I couldn’t care less if he was gay, sexuality isn’t important)

So am I being unreasonable in saying the partner doesn’t come over as it’s just too weird and I don’t want that example being set for my daughter

You realise the sperm determines the sex of the baby, right? And that sex IS determined at conception? That that IS the medical definition, right?

Or did you genuinely not know that sex is determined at conception, and foolishly believed sex suddenly is determined at 6 weeks? Are you that ignorant of science you swallowed that pseudoscience activist rubbish that goes against EVERYTHING we have been taught?

I actually feel embarrassed for you.

Biologists debunked that at conception we're all female decades ago: Facts show that sex is determined by the sperm at conception. https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK279001/… "The chromosomal sex of the embryo is established at fertilization. However, 6 weeks elapse in humans before the first signs of sex differentiation are noticed."

Sex is determined.... AT.....CONCEPTION. This is primary school biology.

It DOESN'T MATTER if there are things that go wrong along the way. The SPERM that enters the ova is either male or female. Not neither or both. That you are this scientifically ignorant is embarrassing for you. I feel such second hand embarrassment for you right now. You must feel ashamed.

A baby's sex is determined at conception, but sex organs develop later on, particularly between weeks 7 and 12 of pregnancy.

Chromosomal sex is determined at the time of fertilization; a chromosome from the sperm cell, either X or Y, fuses with the X chromosome in the egg cell. Gonadal sex refers to the gonads, that is the testicles or ovaries, depending on which genes are expressed. Phenotypic sex refers to the structures of the external and internal genitalia.[6]
Six weeks elapse after fertilization before the first signs of sex differentiation can be observed in human embryos.[5] The embryo and subsequent early fetus appear to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female. Over the next several weeks, hormones are produced that cause undifferentiated tissue to transform into either male or female reproductive organs. This process is called sexual differentiation. The precursor of the internal female sex organs is called the Müllerian system.

Mental health conditions like schizophrenia, bipolar, anorexia nervosa and trans eXiSt. Trans has nothing to do with biology. Trans is a mental health condition. No one changes sex from the moment the sperm enters the ova. Your ignorance of biology is truly shameful. All to promote a dangerous and misogynistic ideology.

Women with CAIS are female.

I am again embarrassed for you.

There isn't any. There is NO science behind it.

You are confusing pseudoscience and lies from activists with actual peer-reviewed science.

I would have thought Stonewall would have learnt to stop trying to do that to Lesbians after a court found their conduct homophobic and a violation of human rights?

But then I would have thought that writing education kits on identifying transphobia through micro aggression which listed not one but two physical behaviours that are used as offical criteria for identifying Autism would be the kind of bigotry that people who cared about fighting bias would not be promoting in the workplace? (As seen at the University of Edinburgh in feb 2025)

It’s almost as if the rights of the disabled, protected beliefs, queer folk, women and children just don’t count in the TRA agenda!

Not according to us, according to MEDICAL SCIENCE. According to something called Biologists.

We can describe men and women and still acknowledge that there are people with Borderline Personality Disorder, Schizophrenia, Anorexia Nervosa and Transvestite/Transgender.

So what's your point?

Maybe we should ask a farmer? 😜

Or my niece’s horse. He hates men. Traumatised as a foal. He’s such a Terf.

Intersex are either male OR female.

It doesn't prove trans exists or doesn't exist anymore than it proves Borderline Personality Disorder or Anorexia Nervosa or Schizophrenia exists or doesn't exist.

You are the one making fanatical and unscientific assertions to somehow prove that because mental illness such as schizophrenia exists we should go along with delusions.

@Galwaygirlxxx A doctor would know that transwomen are males, and would know how a fully intact male in a women and girls change room or rape crisis centre or battered womens shelter affects vulnerable women and girls. This is about MALE vs FEMALE.

A doctor would know this.

And yes, rape survivors like me are afraid of fully intact MALES in our toilets. Saying 'males will attack you anywhere so lets tear down all safeguarding and give up' are the words of a predator defender who seeks to make it easier for males to get access to us and hurt us.

And it's about privacy and dignity away from the male gaze, not just safety.

97% of them don't 'transition' at all, @TheOriginalEmu . Nor even take hormones. They are fully intact males and only need to self ID.

You remind me of gullible people who said Priests and Doctors and Teachers wouldn't spend years studying and then years grooming their victims.

Trans don't even have to do anything. They don't even need to transition or do anything, but put on a dress. Any male predator would do that as it takes no effort, unlike the aforementioned occupations.

Evidence shows 99% of the time women can tell a man from a woman. It is literally hardwired into women as a survival instinct.

Bullshit! And it only happened with any frequency the moment males started invading female bathrooms.

WRONG! Males have not always been allowed to enter female spaces until around the last 10 years. And before then, we could call the police and the male would be charged with Indecent Exposure.

violent people will hurt women anyway?

Oh….
then we should just make all sex segregated spaces unisex !

Open sport ! Unisex prisons and shelters ! Would that benefit Transwomen? Violence will follow any way , so why not save the money and only have unisex spaces?

edit to say sorry replied to wrong post

This isn't about 'gender' non-conforming, this about the MALE SEX infiltrating female only hard won single sex spaces.

And there has always been a way to stop predatory males entering female spaces. POLICE CHARGES and the social contract of stigma and shame.

Guess what? IT WORKED!

Now, females are understandably upset and fighting back against the misogynistic and femphobic erasure of our spaces. Get used to it. We are winning the war and we won't ever fucking stop until these males (however they 'identify') are stopped from accessing female only spaces. Not fucking now, not fucking ever. We're only just getting started.

PS You think Eddie Izzard should be able to access female spaces, don't you? So why isn't it necessary? A bit uncomfortable for you, eh?

@ChessorBuckaroo Poll after poll after poll shows that women believe female only spaces should be for females. 'Transwomen' can 'live their lives' how they want, but they cannot invade female only single sex spaces.

In fact, polls since 2020 show a decrease in support for trans issues, the more people have become aware of it. They are losing the war.

Women can almost always tell a male. A woman identifying as a man can be harder to tell.

The 'males entering womens toilets isn't new'....so let them continue doing so, is NOT the good faith argument you think it is.

You're deeply in denial. Almost no transwomen 'pass'. Because it's not just masculine looks, it's the skull/jaw structure, the gait, voice, adams apple, limb length, height, lack of hips etc. There are far too many tells.

The transwomen I know are stunning women.

That's rose tinted goggles, deep down you know they aren't and don't pass. And if we saw them, we know they wouldn't pass either.

Things will only return to where they were when all males regardless of how they 'identify' stay out of female only single sex (not 'gender identity') spaces. And use third spaces, like we asked them to, YEARS AGO! ONLY then, will they go back to where they were. Feminists are rightly fucking angry! And we won't stop until every last male is out of our spaces. Every single last one. You'd better believe it!

No, we don't. It's fight or flight. Not many women or girls are going to confront a built like a brick shithouse male. We don't want to end up knocked out cold on the floor.

Males entering female spaces are being deceptive. Claiming to be 'trans' (or schizophrenic or bipolar or BPD) does not justify that deception.

It's as deceptive as hearing voices claiming to be the second coming of Jesus.

Any male entering a female only single sex space is being deceptive even if he uses 'trans' to do so.

A transwoman is a male.

And hence, has no right to enter a female only SINGLE SEX space.

That you refuse to understand or accept that says everything.

😂😂 It's the femphobes who think we can't tell a man from a woman without 'GeNiTaL iNsPeCtIoNs'.