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To NOT feel guilty that my kids are in childcare?

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Kanfuzed123 · 10/04/2025 17:47

Inspired by the childcare eating a £45k salary and the anti nursery sentiment from a few posters on there as being inferior for a child.

anyone else not feel in the slightest guilty that there kids are in nursery and have been post maternity leave?

yeah when they cried at drop off was rough and I called into the check out they were but that soon settled. They do lovely events for the parents and upload lots of amazing activities they do, they’ve made fantastic friends.

I could’ve reduced my hours but I didn’t, we could’ve maybe managed on one salary (glad we didn’t when rates shot up) but I went back FT when dc 1 was 15 months (used annual leave for part time before then) and dc2 was 13 months.

anyone else just not feel guilty? I like the lifestyle we can get when we’re working, especially since the 15 funded hrs and now 30, it’s so affordable. (Eldest is in school and youngest now has the 30 hrs) bill is less than £400 a month inc club etc. I like having something else to focus on too.

im not alone or am I?

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PurpleThistle7 · 08/05/2025 14:53

Also all those sorts of groups are super expensive so I still don't understand who can afford to attend many of these per week while also not bringing in an income.

I think the conclusion is that for women who want to AND who are married to someone wealthy, they might enjoy quitting their job when they have a baby. But if one of those things isn't true, it can be pretty grim. So hurray for living in 2025 where women don't have to choose and there are many, many ways to structure their lives so they can have financial independence 'and' children.

As an aside, I also hated groups. Did a few with my daughter and suffered through it as I felt guilty opting out. Felt 0 guilt about doing not a single one with my son.

LookingForRecommendation · 08/05/2025 14:55

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 14:12

It is what it is, you can’t change that now. You’re deluding yourself when you say that it’s not harmful though.

Honestly the kids being harmed now are the ones sitting inside with a vaping parent while eating UPF snacks and watching Dancing Fruit all day. Daycare may not be the same as being at home, but the care is of an acceptable standard, there’s no screens, nice activities and decent food. These parents are begged to use the nursery hours as their toddlers desperately need the routine and engagement.

LookingForRecommendation · 08/05/2025 14:57

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 14:44

What do you mean "don't put other mums?" Why not?

When mine were babies and toddlers, we'd go to Tumble Tots, Monkey Music, Messy play, baby massage - all kinds of things most days. There are loads of mums (and dads) and you meet absolutely loads of new people. Often you'd go for coffee afterwards, or the kids want to keep playing so you go to the park or someone's house. Every day is like that and there are loads of mums everywhere, all in the same boat and all wanting to meet other mums. It's a very sociable time!

With the second or later kids, lots of the friends you met through the first one are also having another one.

I don't know anyone who used a nursery full time. There was a playgroup (nursery?) where they could do three mornings per week (9.15-12), but not before 2.5 years old. After the age of 3, they could go for 3, 4 or 5 mornings. I signed all mine up for 3 mornings in the term they turned 3, but if they didn't want to go, we just did something else.

How are your kids now? What age are they?

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

PurpleThistle7 · 08/05/2025 14:53

Also all those sorts of groups are super expensive so I still don't understand who can afford to attend many of these per week while also not bringing in an income.

I think the conclusion is that for women who want to AND who are married to someone wealthy, they might enjoy quitting their job when they have a baby. But if one of those things isn't true, it can be pretty grim. So hurray for living in 2025 where women don't have to choose and there are many, many ways to structure their lives so they can have financial independence 'and' children.

As an aside, I also hated groups. Did a few with my daughter and suffered through it as I felt guilty opting out. Felt 0 guilt about doing not a single one with my son.

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

PurpleThistle7 · 08/05/2025 15:19

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

I live in Scotland so timed it to have the free nursery hours before my second maternity leave. Therefore giving my son the same opportunity for 1:1 time as my daughter. So that’s the answer for me. Will be different for everyone of course.

TheKeatingFive · 08/05/2025 15:22

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

Well firstly, 8 months of nursery cost me about €8,000, which is nothing close to what I would have been losing if I'd taken a career break.

Secondly, I had to keep DS1 enrolled as otherwise I would have list his place. The nursery was wonderful so no way did I want to do that.

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 15:31

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

You can lose the space if you don't.

Cherrytree86 · 08/05/2025 15:32

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

@HJA87

not everyone’s a perfect mother as you though

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 15:33

PurpleThistle7 · 08/05/2025 15:19

I live in Scotland so timed it to have the free nursery hours before my second maternity leave. Therefore giving my son the same opportunity for 1:1 time as my daughter. So that’s the answer for me. Will be different for everyone of course.

Mine had just started school when I had my second. Bigger gap then we originally wanted but it has it's perks.

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 15:40

LookingForRecommendation · 08/05/2025 14:57

How are your kids now? What age are they?

My kids are older now - 22, 19 and 17! All totally different personalities. One doing Economics at Cambridge, one is at drama school and the youngest doing A-levels. Two are / were very academic, one had some SPLD. Two very confident and outgoing, one a bit more introverted (but oddly, not on the stage). The time flies, it really does.

SouthLondonMum22 · 08/05/2025 15:44

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 15:31

You can lose the space if you don't.

This is why we kept DS in nursery, as well as not wanting to disturb his routine.

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 15:50

SouthLondonMum22 · 08/05/2025 15:44

This is why we kept DS in nursery, as well as not wanting to disturb his routine.

Plus they get undivided attention at nursery and the baby gets it at home. Win win. 🤷

JustHereWithMyPopcorn · 08/05/2025 15:54

Not one minute of guilt here and I went back to work when my oldest was 5.5 months. It was a fabulous nursery and he enjoyed it.

TheCompactPussycat · 08/05/2025 16:03

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 15:00

I don’t really do baby groups but most people I know keep their eldest child in nursery when on second Mat leave. I don’t understand how they can afford that while at the same time claiming they can’t afford to take a career break. I have both of mine at home, and therefore can spend any money that would go on nursery fees on activities etc.

People 'afford' all sorts of things that they feel are important to them or their children. Here are some reasons why they may keep their eldest child in nursery whilst on mat leave:

  • To keep their child's place in nursery. You often have to apply for a place 6-12 months in advance
  • To maintain their child's normal routine
  • To enable them (the parent) to enjoy some important 1-1 time with their new baby
Gogogo12345 · 08/05/2025 16:30

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 14:44

What do you mean "don't put other mums?" Why not?

When mine were babies and toddlers, we'd go to Tumble Tots, Monkey Music, Messy play, baby massage - all kinds of things most days. There are loads of mums (and dads) and you meet absolutely loads of new people. Often you'd go for coffee afterwards, or the kids want to keep playing so you go to the park or someone's house. Every day is like that and there are loads of mums everywhere, all in the same boat and all wanting to meet other mums. It's a very sociable time!

With the second or later kids, lots of the friends you met through the first one are also having another one.

I don't know anyone who used a nursery full time. There was a playgroup (nursery?) where they could do three mornings per week (9.15-12), but not before 2.5 years old. After the age of 3, they could go for 3, 4 or 5 mornings. I signed all mine up for 3 mornings in the term they turned 3, but if they didn't want to go, we just did something else.

Don't bother with other mums UNLESS you want to put up with their kids and have kid talk constantly. Dont quote out of context.

If you are struggling with kids and not enjoying kid based stuff then surely spending time with people who go on about / or bring kids with isn't helpful

IslandsAround · 08/05/2025 16:30

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 15:50

Plus they get undivided attention at nursery and the baby gets it at home. Win win. 🤷

No skin in the game but given ratios kids do not get undivided attention at nursery.

Gogogo12345 · 08/05/2025 16:34

HJA87 · 08/05/2025 14:17

Hmm, where do I start.

If you have time, have a listen to this:

Oh FFS give it a break. She has none of those issues

beetr00 · 08/05/2025 16:40

Kanfuzed123 · 12/04/2025 11:53

Ah another generic platitude. Nice work

@Kanfuzed123

I think, in very many situations that are not ideal (not just childcare) we tend to assuage our guilt.

If it suits you though, fine.

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 16:45

IslandsAround · 08/05/2025 16:30

No skin in the game but given ratios kids do not get undivided attention at nursery.

True but plenty for them to do rather than wait for mum to finish feeding the baby.

TheCompactPussycat · 08/05/2025 17:15

IslandsAround · 08/05/2025 16:30

No skin in the game but given ratios kids do not get undivided attention at nursery.

True, but throughout history, the majority of kids have rarely had their parents' undivided attention. That's really a modern trend of the last 40 years or so when housework stopped being so onerous and parents (mothers, generally) had more time to focus on their children.

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 17:34

Gogogo12345 · 08/05/2025 16:30

Don't bother with other mums UNLESS you want to put up with their kids and have kid talk constantly. Dont quote out of context.

If you are struggling with kids and not enjoying kid based stuff then surely spending time with people who go on about / or bring kids with isn't helpful

Well if you have kids it's not ecactly optional to socialise them. It's not about what you want. It's what's best for them. The end. What the alternative - shut them in a room and hide away? Of course people who have recently had babies will be talking about .... babies. It's sad that you would belittle people for taking an interest in their own children.

SouthLondonMum22 · 08/05/2025 17:42

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 17:34

Well if you have kids it's not ecactly optional to socialise them. It's not about what you want. It's what's best for them. The end. What the alternative - shut them in a room and hide away? Of course people who have recently had babies will be talking about .... babies. It's sad that you would belittle people for taking an interest in their own children.

Baby groups are for parents, not babies. If parents enjoy them, that's great but not all do and that's absolutely fine.

Gogogo12345 · 08/05/2025 17:59

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 17:34

Well if you have kids it's not ecactly optional to socialise them. It's not about what you want. It's what's best for them. The end. What the alternative - shut them in a room and hide away? Of course people who have recently had babies will be talking about .... babies. It's sad that you would belittle people for taking an interest in their own children.

I didn't want to talk endless about babies just because I had one. Especially other people's babies. That's not sad

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 18:37

You can talk about anything you want with anyone. A baby group is not a cult!

IVFmumoftwo · 08/05/2025 18:40

Catwhispereroo · 08/05/2025 18:37

You can talk about anything you want with anyone. A baby group is not a cult!

Maybe not but they can be cliquey.