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To think Lucy Connolly has been made an example of?

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SouthernFashionista · 06/04/2025 22:43

Have any of you read this article about Lucy Connolly who tweeted inflammatory comments following the Southport murders? I have to admit that at the time I was fully supportive of having her locked up, with the key thrown away. But reading this article made me view it all a little differently. Surely she has done her time?
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/04/04/lucy-connolly-southport-riots-axel-rudakubana-taylor-swift/

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JaniceBattersby · 07/04/2025 08:08

I have personal knowledge of this case. Connolly’s tweet was not a one-off. She’d been tweeting incendiary stuff for some time before this. The death of her child, albeit 10 years before, was used in mitigation and her sentence was lowered because of that, and because of her clean record as well as many other mitigating factors.

Her husband is actually standing again as a local councillor at May’s elections so his illness is not stopping him from working.

Many, many parents are locked up for all kinds of crimes. It’s sad for the children involved but being a parent does not mean you should get a free pass. She sees the child extremely regularly as her husband posts the pictures on social media.

Allison Philips’ article also contains details about the parents who have defended her. I know two people whose children have previously been looked after by her who are absolutely disgusted by her actions.

Here are the full sentencing remarks for anyone who wants to read the facts, rather than Rita Skeeter’s version. They note that she actually posted on Twitter that she would ‘play the mental health card’ if she was prosecuted.

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/Connollysentence.pdf

handsdownthebest · 07/04/2025 08:11

No sympathy or her...but I would rather see her do community service in an immigrant detention centre cleaning their toilets.

Gloriia · 07/04/2025 08:11

xanthomelana · 07/04/2025 07:53

So did the rapists and child abusers but yet they either don’t go to prison or get a lesser sentence. Surely you can see the problem here with our justice system.

This!

No one disputes the tweet was wrong and she should have faced some kind of consequence be it a fine or community hours but a custodial sentence is absolutely disproportionate considering what all the sex offenders get.

She should be released.

FondantFancyFan · 07/04/2025 08:11

The other woman from Cheshire also posted a similar tweet and got away with it. I can't remember her name but she was wealthy & probably had v good lawyers.

maudlinbrassmonkey · 07/04/2025 08:12

Thankfully the men of this country are too weak and spineless to act on her tweet.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 08:13

Lucy Connolly you have pleaded guilty to the offence of distributing
material with the intention of stirring up racial hatred.

  1. Sadly this is one of a number of cases that this court has had to deal with
arising from civil unrest following the very tragic events in Southport on the 29th July 2024.
  1. As everyone is aware some people used that tragedy as an opportunity to
sow division and hatred, often using social media , leading to a number of towns and cities being disfigured by mindless and racist violence, intimidation and damage which has been summarised by the prosecution today.
  1. It is strength of our society that it is both diverse and inclusive. There is
always a very small minority of people who will seek an excuse to use violence and disorder causing injury, damage, loss and fear to wholly innocent members of the public and sentences for those who incite racial hatred and disharmony in our society are intended to both punish and deter .
  1. At 8.30pm on the 29th July of this year you used the social media
platform, then known as Twitter, to publish the following: “Mass deportation now, set fire to all the fucking hotels full of the bastards for all I care, while you’re at it take the treacherous government and politicians with them. I feel physically sick knowing what these families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it”
  1. When you published those words you were well aware of how volatile the
situation was. As everyone is aware, that volatility led to serious disorder in a number of areas of the country where mindless violence was used tocause injury and damage to wholly innocent members of the public and to their properties.
  1. Your message was widely read – it was viewed 310,000 times with 940
reposts, 58 quotes and 113 bookmarks.
  1. By the time you were arrested on the 6th August of this year you had
deleted the account. From enquiries made by that police they were able to establish that the individual tweet the subject of this offence remined available for at least three and a half hours.
  1. The police were however able to trace other tweets that you had sent both
before and after the 29th July which included further racist remarks. On the 5th August, the day before you were arrested you sent a WhatsApp message which included “..raging tweet about burning down hotels has bit me on the arse lol which is commonly understood to mean laugh out loud. 10. You also messaged that if enquiries of you were made, you would deny you were responsible for the message and if you were arrested you would play the mental health card “. 11. I have to apply the Sentencing Council Guidelines for this offence. 12. In relation to your culpability this is clearly a category A case – as both prosecution and your counsel agree, because you intended to incite serious violence. 13. In relation to harm it is again agreed, correctly, that what you did encouraged activity which threatened or endangered life and therefore falls within category 1. There is also further relevant factor in relation to harm in that you sought, and achieved, widespread dissemination of your statement by posting it on social media. 14. The starting point after a trial is therefore one of 3 years imprisonment. 15. There is a further significant aggravating factor namely, the timing of the publication when there was obviously a particularly sensitive social climate. It would be difficult to think of a more sensitive such time than during the evening of the 29th July of this year. 16. All of those factors would require a significant increase in the sentence beyond the starting point. 17. As to mitigation. You are now 41 years of age. It is clearly a mitigating factor that you have no previous convictions. I have also read the character references on your behalf from those who know you. They speak of a caring person including those for whom you acted as a child minder for their children. You have a good family and a young daughter who is undoubtedly missing you terribly. I also take into account that this will be the first time you have been in prison and present circumstances.18. In relation to the offence I have regard to the fact that although it was widely read, you did not repeat any such statement and in due course deleted it and you sent some messages to the effect that violence was not the answer. 19. You have had tragedy in your own life with the loss of your very young child some years ago. I have read the psychiatric report from some twelve years ago as to the psychiatric difficulties you then suffered. 20. I accept that you still very keenly feel that loss. 21. There is no recent psychiatric evidence and whilst you may well have understood the grief of those who suffered their own tragic losses in Southport you did not send a message of understanding and comfort but rather an incitement to hatred. There is no evidence of any mental disorder having any material affect on you committing this offence. 22. Similarly whilst I accept you regret your actions and I have been referred to messages in which you say that you disagree with racism and violence, it is clear from the evidence of your own words in the days following your actions, what you said to the police and what you said to the probation officer that you have little insight into, or acceptance of, your actions. 23. I have to balance all of those factors. 24. The minimum sentence after a trial would have been three and a half years imprisonment. 25. You pleaded guilty at the Plea and Case Management hearing and you are therefore entitled to a reduction in that sentence of twenty five percent. 26. The sentence on count 1 therefore is one of 31 months imprisonment. You will serve forty percent of that sentence. When you are released you will remain on license for the balance of the sentence and if you fail to accord with the terms of the license or commit any further offence you can be returned to serve the balance of the sentence. 27.I make a deprivation order in relation to the digital device seized.
maudlinbrassmonkey · 07/04/2025 08:13

FondantFancyFan · 07/04/2025 08:11

The other woman from Cheshire also posted a similar tweet and got away with it. I can't remember her name but she was wealthy & probably had v good lawyers.

And she probably didn’t have an Irish surname.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 08:15

Gloriia · 07/04/2025 08:11

This!

No one disputes the tweet was wrong and she should have faced some kind of consequence be it a fine or community hours but a custodial sentence is absolutely disproportionate considering what all the sex offenders get.

She should be released.

By that reasoning, there’s no point in putting anyone in jail that’s not a rapist, child abuser or murderer.

xanthomelana · 07/04/2025 08:16

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 07:37

I’m waiting patiently for Ricky Jones’ trial.

If they don’t sentence him to the same for saying right wing people should get their throats cut then there’s going to be more trouble and it will prove people right about the two tier justice system.

Where I live our labour MS (Welsh Parliament member) reported an ex soldier from her constituency for enticing hatred, it took 17 minutes for a jury to find him innocent of all charges but he still served time on remand because he pleaded not guilty. The taxpayers foot the bill for this shambles yet again.

Gloriia · 07/04/2025 08:17

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 07/04/2025 08:15

By that reasoning, there’s no point in putting anyone in jail that’s not a rapist, child abuser or murderer.

A tweet should not by any stretch of the imagination necessitate a custodial sentence.
What on earth is wrong with our justice system!
Actual criminals being released early because prisons are full yet someone banged up for a tweet.

Gloriia · 07/04/2025 08:18

'If they don’t sentence him to the same for saying right wing people should get their throats cut then there’s going to be more trouble and it will prove people right about the two tier justice system'

Exactly.

LunaNorth · 07/04/2025 08:18

She’s clearly a horrible woman, with abhorrent views and a strong sense of middle class entitlement - she clearly felt untouchable.

I don’t think her poor son dying should be used as a mitigating factor. Horrible things sometimes happen to horrible people, too. Not every bereaved parent is a tragic saint.

I’d be willing to bet her husband saw that tweet, was worried about his political position and told her to delete it. I don’t believe for a second that she had an epiphany on her dog walk.

Her prison sentence falls within sentencing guidelines, and I guess she fucked around and found out. There’s something satisfying about that, in a schadenfreude sort of way.

In the context of paedophiles and rapists walking free, or getting lighter sentences, though, it all seems a bit uneven. But I guess each case is tried in its own right. A judge isn’t going to say, “You’ve broken the law, and been found guilty, but I let a nonce off last week so you can go home,” are they?

thepariscrimefiles · 07/04/2025 08:18

Allison Pearson is poisonous so I wouldn't trust the judgement of anyone that thinks that she is the voice of reason.

Nextdoor55 · 07/04/2025 08:18

She should be made to work voluntarily with asylum seekers & get to know their stories instead of tarring everyone in that category with the same brush.
By doing what she did she was creating a different hatred which we should all be trying to move away from.

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 08:18

xanthomelana · 07/04/2025 08:16

If they don’t sentence him to the same for saying right wing people should get their throats cut then there’s going to be more trouble and it will prove people right about the two tier justice system.

Where I live our labour MS (Welsh Parliament member) reported an ex soldier from her constituency for enticing hatred, it took 17 minutes for a jury to find him innocent of all charges but he still served time on remand because he pleaded not guilty. The taxpayers foot the bill for this shambles yet again.

I don’t know a more apathetic culture than ours.
If he’s released, people will be angry for all of five minutes and then move on.
The government know this. They know they can get away with almost anything really without much fuss.

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:21

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 07:26

I think while we are allowing men who have raped children to walk free, anyone who is currently in prison for writing tweets should be released.

Which men who have raped children have 'walked free'?

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 08:22

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:21

Which men who have raped children have 'walked free'?

Rees Newman for one

FondantFancyFan · 07/04/2025 08:23

maudlinbrassmonkey · 07/04/2025 08:13

And she probably didn’t have an Irish surname.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/bernadette-spofforth-southport-attacker-fake-name-cheshire-police-b1182709.html

I think she's South African but not 100% certain.

WeAreOnTheRoadToNowhere · 07/04/2025 08:23

The issue imo is that it depends who is saying it and if those in power agree
I have seen people in pride marches with 'kill JK Rowling signs' no arrests
Ricky Jones called for protesters he disagreed witb to have their throats slit, people wearing amnesty tabards clapped him in. He was bailed for months and nothing yet has happened to him
Labour MP who physically assaulted a man, caught on camera and had to be pulled off by bystanders, bailed then sentenced. Immediately released and given a suspended sentence 🙄

sharkanado · 07/04/2025 08:24

By that reasoning, there’s no point in putting anyone in jail that’s not a rapist, child abuser or murderer.

Surely a good start is putting those in jail?

PlanetJanette · 07/04/2025 08:24

mumofoneAlonebutokay · 06/04/2025 23:08

Pay wall, op

What did she say that was so awful?

Keir starmer loves locking people up with insane sentences tbh but i won't pick a side just yet

Keir Starmer doesn’t get to lock anyone up.

The decision to prosecute someone rests with the CPS. The decision to find guilty rests with a magistrate or jury (though here she pleaded guilty) and the decision to sentence rests with a judge.

The only role Starmer plays is in determining the legal parameters for those independent bodies to act - but here they acted within the legal parameters set by the Thatcher Government in 1986.

TENSsion · 07/04/2025 08:26

PlanetJanette · 07/04/2025 08:24

Keir Starmer doesn’t get to lock anyone up.

The decision to prosecute someone rests with the CPS. The decision to find guilty rests with a magistrate or jury (though here she pleaded guilty) and the decision to sentence rests with a judge.

The only role Starmer plays is in determining the legal parameters for those independent bodies to act - but here they acted within the legal parameters set by the Thatcher Government in 1986.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2kjdjylnqyo.amp

Iamnotalemming · 07/04/2025 08:27

Her post was vile but the punishment is disproportionate.

Maitri108 · 07/04/2025 08:30

maudlinbrassmonkey · 07/04/2025 08:12

Thankfully the men of this country are too weak and spineless to act on her tweet.

You're suggesting that they should have murdered people?

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